Sidebar Sidebar
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.

Apple Spokesperson Confirms New Mac Pro Designs Likely Coming in 2013 [Update: Not iMac]

gpat said:
Well, Steve Jobs came back in 1998 and it took some time to get some cash from the masses with the iMac in order to focus on more professional stuff - so we could agree.
Click to expand...

They didn't focus on professional stuff. Steve came and focused on consumer stuff like the iMac and the iPod. He actually discontinued the ultra expensive towers they had during the late 90's. Apple became more consumer oriented after Steve came. But due to performance increases in desktop chips, Apple could build those G4/G5 workstations which didn't cost an arm and a leg anymore, and professionals working in various industries requiring serious computing power started looking at Apple as an option. It wasn't about Steve, it was about Intel/IBM and CPU's getting faster and cheaper.

And they did buy some professional software and made it cheaper and Mac-only to drive more people in, which worked well.
 
gpat said:
It used to be un-Apple to displease professional users to this extent once upon a time.
A lot of pros want to throw very good money (from a minimum of $3000) to Apple, but Tim just wants them to be desperate. I hope that their wait will be rewarded.
Click to expand...

Agreed they should have upgraded the mac pro by now. I was looking at building a hacintosh just to get a decent priced Mac with a good graphics processor instead of an integrated or mobile chip.

I think its bad policy for Apple to allude to new models next year...
 
Flood123 said:
I agree with you. They don't have to, but they did. I think it would be a tad misleading and highly inappropriate to leave it as a refreshed product. This was not an update and should not be represented as one. Apple understood that after having their *** chewed out by angry users so they removed new. Makes sense to me. Chalk it up to a difference of opinion.
Click to expand...

I was replying to the comment that they did it due to peer pressure. I don't think so. It's obvious to everyone, including macrumors, that this "update" is nonsense.
 
How dopey has this company become?

C'mon Apple!!....Just use the same cheese grater and update the internals to the latest and greatest!!!

How can you think that 3 years is an acceptable turn around for a workstation?



Anyway, I just ordered an HP Z820... that money could have been yours and all other future workstations I Might buy.. to hell with you apple!
 
baryon said:
Maybe Apple realized that the Mac Pro isn't as good as it should be, since not only is it super expensive, but it's also always lagging behind with upgrades and there isn't much choice of 3rd party graphics cards available.

What if the 2013 redesign will make it cheaper and more upgradeable? Hope this will be something really cool!
Click to expand...

Their profit margins on dual processor stations aren't that high, but on single processor ones, extremely high. And now we have 8 core processors, so one can build a fairly powerful single processor workstation. I'm expecting Apple to give us a cheaper single processor Mac Pro.
 
I shan't lie: I'm pretty glad I sprang for a 27" maxed out 2nd hand iMac May-sometime. I considered waiting ... but I was cautious that this kind of thing might have happened. Still though, if I had waited, I may still have gone for an iMac at this time with the knowledge that a revision was more than 6 months away - likely to more than a whole year away if the late 2013 note is correct.
 
The MBP update was lackluster to begin with, but waiting another year for iMac update; to what is already almost two year old tech (USB 3) and Ivy Bridge, (not that apple takes advantage of activesync) is pathetic.
 
I wonder what kind of a case redesign they can pull off with the Mac Pro. It's aluminum...competing towers like Dells have some plastic worked in there, so they have room to change designs. Hm. We'll see I suppose. I'm mostly excited about the (hopefully) new graphics options that should come out as well since they'll most likely be compatible with my early 2009 Pro. Even the Mac Pro 1.1's will run the 5870 after all.
 
A new design in 2013 is no reason not to refresh the iMac with ivy/USB 3/new graphics in 2012. Would be a very simple upgrade and wouldn't interfere with the new design the following year.
 
QCassidy352 said:
A new design in 2013 is no reason not to refresh the iMac with ivy/USB 3/new graphics in 2012. Would be a very simple upgrade and wouldn't interfere with the new design the following year.
Click to expand...

And that may still happen, who knows.
 
Lestdog said:
How dopey has this company become?

C'mon Apple!!....Just use the same cheese grater and update the internals to the latest and greatest!!!

How can you think that 3 years is an acceptable turn around for a workstation?



Anyway, I just ordered an HP Z820... that money could have been yours and all other future workstations I Might buy.. to hell with you apple!
Click to expand...

Actually most companies don't upgrade workstations that fast. They buy a bunch in bulk one year, then keep em for awhile and upgrade internals.

I have yet to see a single company (even media heavy companies) upgrade computers yearly.
 
slu said:
I don't currently have a ML ready Mac, so I was looking to upgrade when ML drops, but since I am in the market for a desktop, I may wait until next year. Or I may consider a used Mac for the first time. I guess I'll use the next month to think it over.
Click to expand...

Yes, I'm in the same boat. My 2006 Mac Pro is due to be replaced, and I think I can get a decent deal on a used 12-core.
 
Rocketman said:
This being the single most unusual product update and release day official comment ever, I wonder how cool the update will have to be to appease their pro users.

And for the over-whiners, a MacPro is just as Pro now as it was 1.5 years ago and as it will be 0.5 years in the future. It's all about the software and the user productivity. A Mac is just a tool.

And so is Apple PR and web services. :D

Just Rocketman

Image

Image
Click to expand...

Always spot on, but people can't handle it
they have hexacors ffs, ooh my creativity cannot flourish in such a restrained environment.
yes, if you want to buy an MP, you want the latest and fastest gear around, but if you need it, you just buy it. TB or not TB
 
cgk.emu said:
I wonder what kind of a case redesign they can pull off with the Mac Pro. It's aluminum...competing towers like Dells have some plastic worked in there, so they have room to change designs. Hm. We'll see I suppose. I'm mostly excited about the (hopefully) new graphics options that should come out as well since they'll most likely be compatible with my early 2009 Pro. Even the Mac Pro 1.1's will run the 5870 after all.
Click to expand...

The fact they did not just upgrade the internals of the current design, and are alluding to a new model a year from now makes me think they are designing a workstation that is completely different and probably relies on new tech still in the works.

Apple is obsessed with small and sleek, so I'm thinking a new mac pro will be more like a mac mini on steroids with expansion via a faster thunderbolt port. Maybe the graphics processors will be built into the monitors...
 
iBug2 said:
I was replying to the comment that they did it due to peer pressure. I don't think so. It's obvious to everyone, including macrumors, that this "update" is nonsense.
Click to expand...

Well regardless I am happy everyone seems to be on the same page. The solidarity makes the bitter pill a bit easier to swallow. The sense of community is nice.
 
chrono1081 said:
Actually most companies don't upgrade workstations that fast. They buy a bunch in bulk one year, then keep em for awhile and upgrade internals.

I have yet to see a single company (even media heavy companies) upgrade computers yearly.
Click to expand...

That's ok for companies that bought in bulk with the 2010 refresh, but what about a company that last bought in 2008 or 09? Their choices are delay the upgrade cycle (maybe by a lot) or pay top dollar for way outdated tech.

I usually don't whine too much about apple's perceived failings, but this Mac pro fiasco is really too much.
 
What a let down

Apple better be taking so long, because they are trying to make the display and the Mac Pro into a Retina Display computer.

I've been waiting for 2 years... hurry the F up! :mad:

----------

The lease Apple could do is provide a Thunderbolt PCI Card option.... geez.
 
There goes the "just buy an iMac, it's current and does all you need" response to people wanting an updated Pro. It sounds like we might be all one, big, disgruntled desktop family now, following a murky roadmap into the future.
 
As far as internals, neither the pros nor the i-macs have been "cutting edge" for a long time, if ever. Maybe Cook decided that they both needed to be more competitive, and thus is taking their time with a revolutionary update.
 
The fact that both are scheduled for redesigns next year, and the comment about exciting new designs by Tim Cook would seem to suggest major changes to the desktop line next year. We might see the lines combined, or more likely some changes to the form factor and variety of components. Pretty open ended, but I'm cautiously optimistic (though I don't depend on a Mac Pro for my living either). Assuming the changes are big enough, they may have decided that putting their effort in the new designs is better than releasing more minimal updates to the current generation. Two years not withstanding...
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.
Top Bottom
Back