In a perfect Apple world your ATV would wake up that computer - even wirelessly - through Apple's wake on demand, stream the movie, and put it back to sleep. Pretty cool, but only useful if you're the owner of an imac oder mac mini.
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In a perfect Apple world your ATV would wake up that computer - even wirelessly - through Apple's wake on demand, stream the movie, and put it back to sleep. Pretty cool, but only useful if you're the owner of an imac oder mac mini.
Nah, it's just sleeping. Do you shut down your mac every day? It's okay if you do, but I guess most people don't.
All these requests for 1080p.. So, how much data would be consumed to stream a 1080p movie from iTunes? (typically) I imagine Netflix would probably be around the same data consumption right?
How much is right now? How much does a typical 720p rental streamed from iTunes consume in terms of data? I have a 40GB monthly data cap, and 4 people at home (all connected). We stream a lot of Netflix, iTunes, Youtube content..
Wouldn't 1080p make my data consumption skyrocket? i'd be nice with my 1080p HDTV, but not worth the data consumption rates when going over that 40GB cap.
How much is right now? How much does a typical 720p rental streamed from iTunes consume in terms of data? I have a 40GB monthly data cap, and 4 people at home (all connected). We stream a lot of Netflix, iTunes, Youtube content..
Wouldn't 1080p make my data consumption skyrocket? i'd be nice with my 1080p HDTV, but not worth the data consumption rates when going over that 40GB cap.
Lately, I have connected a large external monitor to my MBP and have been working from the living room. I have never been a big fan of leaving a laptop on all the time. I do have a computer that I use for a media server in the cable room, however, I usually keep it turned off.
Edited to say: It just strikes me as wasteful to use a computer for a job that could be done with an external HD.
Supply Chain Management to the max!
With emphasis on the above cited passage, we get a look at the absolute brilliance of Apple's supply chain management. It's not just "just on time *delivery*", but also "just on time" *planned* obsolescence.
Seriously, what would Apple do with a "reduced price" Apple TV (second generation)? Reduce it to $50? That's just too extreme an accessory for Apple.
BTW, my second generation Apple TV will be available on EBay shortly!
With emphasis on the above cited passage, we get a look at the absolute brilliance of Apple's supply chain management. It's not just "just on time *delivery*", but also "just on time" *planned* obsolescence.
Seriously, what would Apple do with a "reduced price" Apple TV (second generation)? Reduce it to $50? That's just too extreme an accessory for Apple.
BTW, my second generation Apple TV will be available on EBay shortly!
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Personally I hope if apple adds new software features then it is available for a software update for the atv2. I have no need for 1080p (I know saying I don't have a 1080p tv is like social suicide on a tech forum! But it's only for the office!)
I can't afford a new iPad 3 and a new apple tv!
I think the real question is at what size of TV and bitrate of encoding does one really notice a difference between 720p and 1080p.
I think resolution has less to do with bandwidth than compression levels. The boost to 1080p will increase your usage, however, not as much as if they sent you a better, less compressed image with deeper colors.
Depending on how far away you sit, at around a 50 inch TV, you can see the difference.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPTV/
"There is no absolute answer for the bandwidth requirement for the IPTV service because the bandwidth requirement is increasing due to the devices inside the household. Thus, currently compressed HDTV content can be delivered at a data rate between 8 and 10 Mb/s, but if the home of the consumer equipped with several HDTV outputs, this rate will be multiplied respectively."
If you pre-downloaded a movie, you could transmit it over WiFi with ease.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
So choose the 720p version. For those that feel that way about 720p, they've been able to choose the smaller SD version for- what- about 6 years since 720p as added. Apple won't force 1080p on everyone anymore than they forced 720p on everyone. You choose what works best for your situation.
OK, I can see that it feels like a waste to you. Personally, I'd get a time capsule if it could also act as a media server.
On the other hand I recently measured the power intake of my macbook air 2011 with the display turned off: 11W. Pretty cool, if only the harddrive was a little bigger..
Sold mine on Ebay for 85.00 plus shipping costs yesterday. Should be nice spec bump at a minimum.
1080p would be nice, but what I really want is anTV which can act as the central host for my iTunes library so I can maintain it seamlessly across multiple computers.
That's called iTunes Match
what percentage of the iTunes market owns a 50-inch TV? I'd speculate that it's quite low. Nevermind people having connections to properly buffer and download a 1080p version that is uncompressed enough to provide an advantage over 720p.
And, it will be 1USD more than the 720p (which is already 1 USD more than the SD version). I only rent SD, by the way.
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Who ever pre-downloads a movie?
If Apple does make an actual TV, I'd be interested in seeing the specs & how well it works. My school district is thinking about getting a TV in every room so if we could get Airplay with it, they're would be a lot of happy teachers. Only thing though is will it have VGA/DVI in? Probably not. We really need VGA or DVI in for our document cameras.
A Time Capsule with lots of additional hard drives attached.
Was your MBA doing anything other than just pumping out idle cycles? I am sure the MBA has very good power management and is very good at selectivly putting parts of itself to sleep when not in use.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Apple definitely did include a hard drive in the first generation for local storage. And a jailbreak solution with that generation made it possible to turn the USB port linked to a much bigger hard drive into a large, local repository of iTunes media. For many, they could turn those computers off because all the video they had could be stored there.
And by the way, the second generation has a USB port too (but it is not unlocked for that local storage use).
Good for you and using the streaming from central storage hooked to a computer makes great sense for you. Not everyone is you though. Some have 1
TV hooked to 1 television. They would like the OPTION of storing their media on it so that they can enjoy that media when the computer is turned off and/or when the computer is away from the home. Giving them that option makes the device more appealing to more people so that Apple can sell more.You don't want that option? Don't use it. But it's not wrong for others to want that option even though you don't. In my own situation, I'd love that flexibility and take great advantage of it. I still have generation 1 somewhat because the local storage is useful to me.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Everyone who doesn't want to depend on a smooth, uninterrupted stream. I might rent the movie in the morning with an intent to watch it that evening. It's usually completely downloaded by the time I'm ready. No hiccups, no buffering. I find this to work much better- even on a fast Internet connection- than to start playback too soon after "rent now" when it will inevitably catch up to the stream and freeze the movie while it downloads more.
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I have a 43" Samsung 720 Plasma, so 1080 isn't a big deal for me. More streaming options (besides Netflix), apps, and some storage would be great.
I have a 43" Samsung 720 Plasma, so 1080 isn't a big deal for me. More streaming options (besides Netflix), apps, and some storage would be great.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I'm with you.
And way past time for this to arrive. Maybe Apple is finally taking it more serious as a product? I hope they finally give it what we've been hoping for all this time. It's a fantastic product just begging for a few enhancements that would probably lift it out of "hobby" status. Maybe they decided to get it right this time.