The data requirements for 1080 are steep but we also need to keep in mind that all Apple TV video content isn't purchased. There are now millions of 1080p iPhones out there that want to view their content at full rez
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The data requirements for 1080 are steep but we also need to keep in mind that all Apple TV video content isn't purchased. There are now millions of 1080p iPhones out there that want to view their content at full rez
I'm ready to swipe my card and extra time!
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I hope the March 8 date implies the iPad 3 will also be available the day after the announcement!
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I hope the March 8 date implies the iPad 3 will also be available the day after the announcement!
Yeah, but the TC doesn't even have an iTunes music server.. Not cool if you want a central iTunes library for everyone in the house. But thankfully there's iTunes Match for that.
It was downloading over wifi. But I'm shure it wouldn't be a lot more when streaming a movie.
Anyway, I think it's obvious that Apple will keep pushing towards cloud computing in a way that they will cut out the local media storage altogether.
Never saw the point of an ATV for me because I have a an Xbox with Live as well as Blu-Ray player, but now this all changes.
With the Air Play feature built into ML, I have a very good reason to buy one and am actually quite excited.
With the Air Play feature built into ML, I have a very good reason to buy one and am actually quite excited.
I use my ps3 for streaming in one room and atv2 in the other. The plex interface is so much nicer to use than the ps3 media server setup. Ive thought about getting another atv2 for streaming duties instead of the ps3. Plex also let's me view the massive collection of movies and tv shows I have stored on my iMac from anywhere i have an Internet connection which is nice.
I wonder if this A5X processor that has popped up will be used in the atv3. Though you'd think if they are putting a quad core in the iPad3 they mine as well make the atv3 a quad core
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
For your situation, you would probably just keep choosing the 720p option in the iTunes store. But note that if you do end up with some 1080p content (and there are many more sources than just iTunes), 1080p video downconverts to 720p playback as super-sharp picture quality. It just doesn't work as well the other way (720p source to 1080p screen via upconverts). In the former, the
TV will throw out pixels to shrink the resolution down to your 720p HDTV resolution. In the latter, it has to invent pixels to substitute in for a 1080p screen.Basically, I see 1080p options as a win for everyone. Those that want it finally get it. Those that don't won't have it forced upon them. Those happy with 720p or SD can just keep downloading their 720p or SD. Those holding out for 1080p can finally join our little party. Personally, I've got years of 1080HD video shot on consumer camcorders, edited & rendered in 1080HD from tools as far back as iMovie 06. They store and play just fine in iTunes. At the other end of the chain, I have a 1080p HDTV and have had >720p HDTV since about 2001. This ONE part has always been the weak link for my needs. Perhaps finally that is about to be addressed. If so, I'll buy 3 of them right out of the gate.
If you have an iPhone/iPad/iPod touch you can do AirPlay to the atv currently. Though the feature in ML will make things even better
I'm not sure making this in multiple colors is worthwhile. And as for the size, I'd rather not pay the miniaturization tax.
Someone who has a slower network connection? Someone who wants to watch a movie while people are gaming online? And so on...
I guess some people pre-download.
I like being able to choose on impulse and watch it immediately on demand and decent internet service is cheap here (14/mo for 16/1 service) and I've never had a problem.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I hope not as iCloud can't be the Ultimate answer while the likes of Comcast, AT&T, Verizon, Sprint, Time Warner, Cable Vision function as toll masters between iCloud and our local access. You think bandwidth caps and tiered pricing is bad now? Just wait until someone like Apple starts more meaningfully eating into those player's cable TV subscription revenues. Tiers will get much tighter and bandwidth pricing will spike. Then, what will we do? For many, there are no competitors for broadband. For those who have a choice or two, isn't the alternative also in the television subscription business (and won't they also be using the same exploitative tactics to minimize defection to an Apple solution entirely dependent upon their own broadband pipes)?
iCloud is NOT the answer. It's just one way to go. It can never be great while the Comcasts, etc are in the middle. Now if Apple could just find a way to set up a direct connection by bypassing these middlemen... THEN, iCloud really could be THE answer.
Apple seems to consider several of their products more "hobbies" than serious products. While I know Apple wants to be more of a consumer electronics company, I just wonder how many more Mac Pros & xServes they would sell (or would've sold) if they got the same dedication as the iPhone & iPad.
That's true for people on a capped line (which seems to be quite common in the US).
But maybe we will get the option to stream purchased movies directly from the cloud. We already have it with music.
March 7th can take it's sweet time... It's gonna be expensive... (well, not new MBP expensive...)
EDIT (for those that can't extrapolate): Apple TV3 + iPad3 + things for iPad3 (smart cover, etc) ...
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HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
I'm certain we'll have the option (sooner or later). Apple wants everyone to use iCloud. That is what it's about. It's not Apples fault that these middlemen exist and can really hurt the benefit proposition by putting the squeeze on the users.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
TV3 is going to be expensive? What's expensive? The current one is $99 and the former generation with a hard drive was $229. Is either of those expensive?I bet it's still $99... maybe $149. There's plenty of 1080p hardware sold for profit at <$99... some with spinning disc hardware to play Blu ray discs (too).
I'll be very surprised if it would exceed $149 for a 1080p
TV. But personally, I'd pay upwards of $300-$400 for one that ONLY added 1080p playback and was otherwise exactly the same as the current model. It's a great product (too long) playback handicapped at a max 720p limit. It will be terrific to max out what my TV can handle.
I bet it's still $99... maybe $149. There's plenty of 1080p hardware sold for profit at <$99... some with spinning disc hardware to play Blu ray discs (too).
I'll be very surprised if it would exceed $149 for a 1080p
Apple TV3 + iPad 3 (possibly times 2) + things for iPad3 (smart covers, etc) and I did clarify that it wouldn't be new MBP expensive...
I know this is pushing it, but it would be awesome if Apple dropped the price from $99 to $79! Everyone will own one then, lol. Even though, thats not a bad idea.
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Haha! True!
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Haha! True!
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Current
TV can't push 1080p quality out (hardware limitation). So even if this projector could project 1080p, the TV2 could only feed it 720p at best.I'm pretty convinced that an
TV3 is on the way. As soon as Apple embraced 1080p in the iPhone4s, it had to move toward a 1080p TV through which all THAT video could be displayed at native quality. I also think (though I care much less about this one) we're also going to see 1080p content in the iTunes store. Why? Because this rumored iPad is going to have >1080p resolution (apparently) and 720p upscaled to iPad3 retina is not going to look as good as 1080p upscaled to iPad3 retina. Plus, I expect iPad3 to also get the 1080p video camera so it too will be looking for a way to push it at 1080p onto our HDTV screens, not push it to the gen 2, downconvert it to 720p then push that to the HDTV.
All I can say is: it's about time. It will be great to get an
TV that is capable of 1080p playback. Not only will I personally get what I've long wanted, but EVERYONE wins as better hardware can always max out lessor software (meaning people happy with 720p or SD will still be able to play their 720p or SD at it's maximum resolution on hardware capable of 1080p playback too).
Dedicated not really, I have a shared desktop that streams to 3 ATV's. Music streams from iCloud, movies from the computer, TV shows from either. My computer is on all the time.