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Apple Starts Selling $69 OS X Lion USB Thumb Drive
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Nope, never had. But I have had a few usb sticks die, which really sucks since they are so much more expensive than a DVD disk,
By that logic the USB stick should allow you to install Snow Leopard then
In addition, that just backs up the fact that Lion is really NOT a new OS. Its a patch for Snow Leopard that adds 1 application (Launchpad) and apples a few (pointless/minor) tweaks to the UI.
We're really all just running Mac OS X 10.6 Service Pack 1
You must be joking.
By that logic you are, and notice everybody, because what I'll be writing is "fact," which is to be distinguished from opinions and beliefs, that, you are NOT really a new person but a patch to your father that adds a few pointless tweaks to the genes.
We are really all just speaking to your-father service pack 1.
I followed this article on creating my USB stick for a clean install of Lion on my iMac
Worked perfect.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/08/make-a-bootable-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-installer-from-a-usb-flash-drive/
Worked perfect.
http://osxdaily.com/2011/07/08/make-a-bootable-mac-os-x-10-7-lion-installer-from-a-usb-flash-drive/
According to the Apple Store, the requirements for "OS X Lion USB Thumb Driver" are
That means you need to own SL on the machine you are upgrading (or performing the fresh install on), so we are back at the $29, and Apple charging you $30 for a thumb drive.
Think, folks. THINK!!
Yeah, so it's pretty standard "neutral" story i can read by going back to any of Mac OS X release. That's first.
Second my head is not in the clouds, i have no use for it today.
Third i already noted about going off-course. Don't do that.
In addition, that just backs up the fact that Lion is really NOT a new OS. Its a patch for Snow Leopard that adds 1 application (Launchpad) and apples a few (pointless/minor) tweaks to the UI.
We're really all just running Mac OS X 10.6 Service Pack 1
God, we have "one of those" here again.
Come on, Lion is not just an SL + Launchpad, nor a new "Vista".
A lot has changed; but not all necessarily in the UI (New expose, launchpad, fullscreen apps, iCal and I can go on and on) but a lot of work has been done behind the scenes. Apple isn't focussing on that: a LOT of improvement in security, better Time Machine, Versions, Resume, Instant quit for apps and the list is going on and on here as well.
Get the facts straight; a SP is about fixing bugs and adding small features. Lion has a lot of new features and every structural changes. Not even close to a SP.
Not true, at least not with the dl version (which I would bet is the same). I've personally installed Lion on a blank partition with no problem from the DMG extracted from the dl (and Restored to a USB stick).
Firstly, I'm in no way trolling. If you read back our little tiff, you'll see that you went off on one when I pointed something out that was blatantly obvious. Just because you disagree with my OPINION it does not make me a troll. Calling someone a troll is really pathetic and childish. Grow up for goodness sake.
This argument is never going to result in a resolution, so its pointless continuing. At the end of the day, you have your views, I have mine. In my opinion I'm right. In your opinion you're right. I respect your views, however disagree with them and vice versa. End of.
By that logic the USB stick should allow you to install Snow Leopard then
In addition, that just backs up the fact that Lion is really NOT a new OS. Its a patch for Snow Leopard that adds 1 application (Launchpad) and apples a few (pointless/minor) tweaks to the UI.
We're really all just running Mac OS X 10.6 Service Pack 1
I know it doesn't look like a lot of huge changes on the surface but under the hood there was a lot done on Lion. There was some nice advancements with the UI, such as Air Drop, Launchpad (which I surprisingly love), Mission Control (I like my spaces better but Mission Control isn't bad), and a few others; but the real stuff comes from the implementation of a lot of the newer core technologies. The new OpenGL implementation is huge since according to everything I've read it will allow Apple to move to higher versions much easier.
There is a slew of changes listed on Apples website. Its a really good update.
Yep. Since Installer is not set to look for Snow Leopard i see this just as standard safe guard Apple has put in. Nothing else.
You can install either version (download or USB key) to any supported Mac running any Mac OS X (Tiger, Leopard or Snow Leopard).
Ok, I accept that Lion has a few more bits and bobs than a standard Service Pack (in comparison to the MS ones). The biggest upgrade is obviously the new API's, which I do agree are very useful. But from a users perspective, not a lot has changed. If anything its slowed down the OS, and has added a few features that weren't really needed or wanted. Launchpad for one seems fairly useless in its current iteration, hopefully that'll change with future updates.
My main gripe was that Apple lists 250 new features. What they don't tell you is that those 250 new features include silly little things like widening the spotlight search bar. Hardly a new feature, I'm sure you'd agree.
Don't get me wrong. I like Lion, but it does feel very minor (again from a user/frontend perspective) compared to previous updates.
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Has someone else pointed out I'm considering getting one for the collectable value down the line.
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Has someone else pointed out I'm considering getting one for the collectable value down the line.
That's opinion or a fact?
I didn't call anyone a troll YET. I said off-course to the…
Mac OS X is very mature OS now and it doesn't need to have flying sourcer detector to it to FEEL right.
It has plenty of changes both visual and under the hood to justify calling it a MAJOR release, so your OPINION you started this whole thing with is kinda …
What else are you going to agree to along the way?
I'm buying a couple of these they look so gorgeous and sexy. I have no need for them really because I created my own USB Thumb Drive installers but if you're a real Apple fan you need these devices in your collection.
This USB device contains OS X Lion. I see a lot of people falsely saying you can make one yourself, but you can't. You can put the OSX Lion installer on a USB drive.
A couple years ago I was TDY in a location with crap for internet. Let's say I had to go back there, or let's consider the other Mac users who have to go.
If they read the false info telling them to make their own recovery USB drive with Lion on it, and do so, they'll be in big trouble when they get there and realize they're self-made USB drive only has the installer and they still need to download Lion itself.
However, if they buy this drive, they can install Lion without connecting to the internet.
I'm not sure why the downloadable Lion can't be put on a USB drive, maybe it's a piracy issue. If the app store version could be copied to USB and distributed freely, it wouldn't take long before the .dmg was on every torrent site. maybe the store-bought drive has DRM measures.
Personally, I think it's good to have this option. I downloaded Lion and don't have a need for this installation so far, however being an indie game developer who's thinking of making commercial arcade games with mac hardware, it would be nice to be able to install Lion on the many machines I will be putting out in public without having to enter my Apple ID and password into each.
A couple years ago I was TDY in a location with crap for internet. Let's say I had to go back there, or let's consider the other Mac users who have to go.
If they read the false info telling them to make their own recovery USB drive with Lion on it, and do so, they'll be in big trouble when they get there and realize they're self-made USB drive only has the installer and they still need to download Lion itself.
However, if they buy this drive, they can install Lion without connecting to the internet.
I'm not sure why the downloadable Lion can't be put on a USB drive, maybe it's a piracy issue. If the app store version could be copied to USB and distributed freely, it wouldn't take long before the .dmg was on every torrent site. maybe the store-bought drive has DRM measures.
Personally, I think it's good to have this option. I downloaded Lion and don't have a need for this installation so far, however being an indie game developer who's thinking of making commercial arcade games with mac hardware, it would be nice to be able to install Lion on the many machines I will be putting out in public without having to enter my Apple ID and password into each.
Sure a lot of the changes are minor, but then, so is the price. I would argue that for most users, there are 1 or 2 features that make it worth it to upgrade. For me FileVault2 and Mission Control (w/ Full-screen) meant that it was a no-brainer to fork over my $29. I probably still would have upgraded at $129 because Full Disk Encryption is worth at least that (a PGP subscription for WDE ran about that price).
'cause the MBA and the MacMini don't have DVD, and probably 'cause discontinuing the optical drive in the future has been announced since the whole iTunes, AppStore, etc started to be realy big.
true, however if you have SL, why wouldn't you want to download it.
makes perfect sence.
I think most of us want to buy this awesome little USB drive with the
on it to show off to our friends and colleagues. The question to Apple should be: "please sell us this little gadget!" and not "can i remove the the Lion from this?" The downloadable Lion Installer App contains a fully bootable DMG containing Lion. Disk Utility must be used to Restore it to whatever partition you would like - be it on a USB stick, a small HD partition, or a DVD. All of them are bootable and contain Lion.
It's only the Lion Recovery HD that requires the the internet to download Lion.
I think you're confusing the two. The Recovery HD is about 650MB. The DMG from the installer app is 3.74GB.
This is quite wrong..when you download and before you install you get the .dmg (install ESD) and either put it on a thumb drive or burn it...works like a charm and does clean install with no internet connection..I did it with my MP and will do it again on the MP after I install the new logic board..
It's all over the net on how to do this
Well, every article I've read on this says you can put Lion onto a USB but the article itself spells out the steps to put on an installer. Even in this thread people have been saying you could create a USB Lion drive exactly like the one being sold, but the links they provide go to tutorials that create what I described.
So, the ones that you guys are referring to that don't need internet, do they require the Apple ID to install? That's what I need to avoid for my games.