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Apple Starts Sending 'Batterygate' Settlement Payments to iPhone Users
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Because many folks have no record of their iphone serial number.
What watt charger do you use?
I wonder if folks with rapid battery capacity loss is due to a high wattage charger (i.e 20 watt), and charge daily to 100% generating a lot of repeated charging cycles.
For LI battery longevity it is best to charge only to ~80% with a lower wattage charger (e.g. 12 watt). My iphone battery is 2.5 years old and still at 90% reported capacity.
p.s. Battery replacement is relatively cheap, no need to use a new battery as a reason for getting a new iPhone
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No, was just extra info for you.
GnipGnop and I are done as he/she just dodges. Not wasting my time there.
Settlement = out of court. That’s why Apple released a statement saying they had done nothing wrong.
That’s irrelevant. Lawsuits require some sort of injury claim. There’s no injury involved in having your phone throttle instead of unexpectedly shutting off.
Even you couldn't understand the real reason for the slowdown. It is due to that CPU's that speed up, require a high voltage for short time, but when batteries get older they can't supply that voltage increase. So, what would happen is that the CPU would crash and the phone restart. Thus, Apple limited this from happening on batteries that couldn't handle it and support that power spike. People quickly called that "Planned Obsolescence" instead of realizing that it was better for the user. The intention was to improve the user experience, but that message got lost due to misunderstanding or unwillingness to understand battery physics.
It didn't get lost, as it was never there to begin with. Apple didn't tell anyone they had made this change..what they did to the software/hardware is irrelevant. People keep arguing about batteries and physics, when this entire settlement has nothing whatsoever to do with that.
The lawsuit was because they didn't communicate what they did. End of story.
Two multimillion settlements and a 25 million dollar fine from the French. But they did nothing wrong. Lol. Next time I receive a speeding ticket I will tell my wife I did nothing wrong. She will not be that naive. Question: replace “Apple” in all of this by “Samsung”, would you defend Samsung?
The important thing here is the word, 'fine'.
If you were so minded you could argue that an out of court settlement doesn't mean wrong doing. It gets a bit harder to stretch the truth when you are fined.
There’s no legal requirement to provide detailed technical explanations for software updates. Example: “bug fixes” or “performance improvements” are routinely used for app updates and do not provide any specific information to users about what was done. Apple used the phrase “improvements to power management under peak loads”.
You can LOL all you want but that IS how it works with a settlement. It means a judge/jury never reached a verdict on the lawsuit. Both parties agreed to Apple doing the $500 million payout and also Apple being able to say they did nothing wrong.
This was and is nonsense. I was one of the people affected by "Batterygate." I took my phone in and Apple gave me a new battery for free.
Ah yes. Your experience is indicative of the experience of everybody else. Got it.
Doesn't matter as this was a civil case, not criminal.. There is an ethical agreement that they violated. They knew they violated it, and to save face (because a jury would have ruled against them) they settled, and Tim Cook personally apologized.
Ethics are important.
..and my brother was told his phone was unfixable, by a genius, and to buy a new one. He just needed a battery.
$500M tells me this is very much not nonsense. Apple doesn’t settle frivolous lawsuits. They were likely concerned that they’d be on the hook for more had the claim proceeded and that the communications revealed through discovery would be very embarrassing.
But I’m glad you got your new battery.
There's no ethical agreement regarding going into specifics about an app update either. For example a Kindle app update that's currently on my iPhone says "Several experience improvements and bug fixes". It's entirely routine for app developers to use non-specific language like that.
I do not care. What they did is equal any to VW cutting my engine performance when I'm low on fuel. Even if it did help (which in the case, I know it wouldn't, so it's hypothetical), they should still tell me before applying that software update.
Communication should be default. Apple knows this, knows they would have lost if it went to trial, and settled because of that.
Tim Cook apologized because what Apple did was wrong.
The first part of that sentence is a possibility. Just like it's a possibility that the lawyers who filed the lawsuit were concerned that they might get less. No guarantees when it goes to trial. Coming to an agreement out of court creates a guarantee.
The second part of that sentence is much less of a possibility. Apple never removed the throttling feature from the OS. What does that tell you about internal intent for the feature?
Cars have a "low fuel" warning specifically because running at/near empty can cause damage to the engine. Phones would shut off automatically if the voltage demand was too high for the battery to supply because it can can cause damage to the hardware. Those are both examples of safety features. Apple's solution to have the system monitor voltage demands and anticipate possible spikes is also a safety feature. It's goal is to prevent damage to the hardware while also allowing the phone to continue to operate.
Indeed they do. Key point, they tell you.
Apple didn't. There was zero way to know that anything was happening.
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I was able to find my serial number of phones i have had in the past long after I had sold or traded them in.