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Siliconguy

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Welcome to 2012.
Broadcast TV went dark here in 2004. The "local" stations never replaced the translators that rebroadcast the signals from the city, and the digital signals have a range measured in single digit km (apparently). So a tuner is utterly pointless.

Transmitters cost money to operate, selling broadcast rights to cable/satellite brings in money. It's not hard to see why the stations did it that way. And it's extremely unlikely I'm driving 120 miles to the city to buy anything. I did it once in the last ten years to buy a canoe. So no ROI to city businesses to advertise to the countryside either.
 

RandomTox

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Jan 17, 2007
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Translated: This product may never see the light of day.

With the new Mac Mini, a lineup with the small iMac for "casual users", and a larger display option for Mac Mini/Studio users makes a lot more sense than an iMac Pro.
it does not. more wires and devices, more expensive, less aesthetics and not sustainable, a waste for the environment that Apple so much cares about. Less is always more.
 

Populus

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Aug 24, 2012
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it does not. more wires and devices, more expensive, less aesthetics and not sustainable, a waste for the environment that Apple so much cares about. Less is always more.
Honestly, I think it generates more e-waste to replace an iMac every time the system gets outdated (because of RAM, SSD or CPU/GPU constraints) than keeping the screen and replacing your Mac mini or Mac Studio, or PC or console when needed.

Anyways, I’m glad that Apple is considering a bigger option for those that, despite the disadvantages, still prefer a thin and elegant all-in-one solution. Between 28 and 30” sounds about right.
 

tenthousandthings

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May 14, 2012
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[…] TDM is likely not more a requirement than modular DIMM RAM sockets are. There is an external faction that want the feature, but Apple has other design priorities. The output for the embedded display comes from the Apple SoC. Gets even more proprietary if Apple's chosen display has some custom display controller.

If Apple simply allowed a dedicated input port there would be no need for TDM. But their monitors much have one , and only one, port (and no physical monitor control buttons ). So have that self imposed constraint. […]
Yes, sorry, I wasn’t being clear. I meant if Apple wants to avoid public-relations blowback from coming out with a whole new generation of iMacs that can’t also be used as external displays, they’d need to restore TDM. Your solution of a dedicated input port is even better, much less fuss in the long run, but like you say, there is some self-imposed design imperative toward minimalism that seems to preclude that.
 
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Populus

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Yes, sorry, I wasn’t being clear. I meant if Apple wants to avoid public-relations blowback from coming out with a whole new generation of iMacs that can’t be used alternately as external displays, they’d need to restore TDM. Your solution of a dedicated input port is even better, much less fuss in the long run, but like you say, there is some self-imposed design imperative toward minimalism that seems to preclude that.
Yeah, I still don’t understand why Apple limits the use of the iMac’s display. I mean, I can understand it because “it’s Apple, walled garden, blah blah blah…”, but from the technological point of view, it makes no sense that I’m not allowed to use that monitor for other devices.
 

ignatius345

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I've given up. They won. I bought a Mac Mini and a Studio Display.
Probably where I'm headed too when eventually I move on from my iMac M1 -- especially if that rumored "mini Mini" sees the light of day. I have a pretty small desk and like to keep things as simple as possible.

The current 24" size is decent and generally large enough for my general productivity, but I find when I use more complex software like Illustrator with tons of control palettes, etc, that it gets a little crowded. I had the 27" 5K iMac before and that size felt about right. If a new iMac landed at 32" I think that would probably overpower my desk and be more space than I need, personally.
 

Onelifenofear

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If the Mac mini is going to be as small as they say they should just have a simple dock on the back of the Apple monitors to mount them and connect. Then just upgrade the boxes.
 

ignatius345

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the only reason people have been clamoring for a new high end iMac is that the intel iMacs had grown into a significant bargain for a high end display that had a pretty decently specced Mac stuck inside
Yep. That's been the deal for a long time now. If Apple sold a nice, bright 24" 4.5K retina display like the current iMac has in it, hard to imagine it selling for less than like $999, and the entry level iMac sells for $1299 so it's an excellent bargain up front. But unfortunately you then have to toss that display out when you want a new Mac -- which over an upgrade cycle or two offsets that initial deal.
 
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JimmyG

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Oct 19, 2019
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>snip<

P.S. Gurman has a long track record of "large screen iMac" just around the corner sighting for last 4 years. It isn't so much covering his bets with 30+ ... the whole concept ... " see it was coming years ago like I said" covering his predictions. ( he let go of the 'half sized' Mac Pro thing. But until it is conclusive that it isn't right he likely will just keep recycling it. )
A company the size of Apple most-assuredly creates prototype models of various sizes and configurations of their products, so it's not a stretch for me to understand that "some insider" seeing such devices and blabbing about what they saw in "wonderland" making out into the rumor mills.
 

Velli

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it does not. more wires and devices, more expensive, less aesthetics and not sustainable, a waste for the environment that Apple so much cares about. Less is always more.
I'm not quite sure if this is sarcasm?
 

Velli

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If the Mac mini is going to be as small as they say they should just have a simple dock on the back of the Apple monitors to mount them and connect. Then just upgrade the boxes.
It would be very un-Apple to design something to be hidden, rather than shown off.
 
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citysnaps

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Oct 10, 2011
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After all these years, if it’s only 30 inch and not at least 32 then it’s dead in the water

A 30" would sell fine. No reason for it not to.

People who need a large screen all-in-one Mac are not going to stomp their feet and in a huff buy a 24" iMac.
 
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ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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Sep 18, 2018
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This rumor comes and goes like the seasons change.

This latest revival of the rumor is just a reiteration of previous statements.

Reality is that Apple is working on a ton of things all the time. Hundreds of products that are never seen or talked about as they never go beyond the prototype phase and never get leaked.

This rumor is still a nothing burger.
 
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Ctrlos

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Sadly, for a lot of people, yes. It used to be that Apple products were simply the best available. Not so any more.
It still comes down to use case. There are some terrific Windows Laptops out there and even some Android Tablets have upped their game. Apple products still being me joy though; they'd have to do something really daft to make me bin the Mac.
 
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Speed38

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Nov 5, 2011
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I think there’s definitely a market for it, but personally I like the Mac mini better. I hate throwing away those beautiful displays when the iMacs get obsolete.
Didn’t MacRumors recently publish a piece on how to connect an iMac monitor to another Mac? It was my hope to one day connect my 27” 2020 iMac monitor to a Mac Mini.
 
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