I feel that way everytime they release a product. Like how they released the ipad 2 without retina which they could of done in the first place as well as the mini ipad. I do feel it's greed. I hated how they always just boost the specs just a little bit. Give us the most up to date specs out there and stop holding it back for future releases. Lastly the Iphone5 to me was ehhh..
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I feel that way everytime they release a product. Like how they released the ipad 2 without retina which they could of done in the first place as well as the mini ipad. I do feel it's greed. I hated how they always just boost the specs just a little bit. Give us the most up to date specs out there and stop holding it back for future releases. Lastly the Iphone5 to me was ehhh..
This was in the main news all day today. Main points were Apple did not meet expectations and did not grow, and it's sales did not meet expectations. But the main thing was lack on innovation, their is no new big thing and investors don't think Apple will be able to deliver one, so they sell the stock.
In fact it made so much more sensible sense then pretty much 95% of the posts in this thread do.
Written version:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21186991
I watched the report on the news programme.
In fact it made so much more sensible sense then pretty much 95% of the posts in this thread do.
Written version:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-21186991
I watched the report on the news programme.
This is investing. The Law, for investing, is that you can't expect 50% growth forever, because as the numbers get larger it is impossible to keep up high growth levels. Some investors expected exponential growth in perpetuity from Apple. Not possible, and people shouldn't be this crazy because percentage growth slows. But it's the stock market, people are crazy.
It is adapted from the quote you listed for this industry.
No. There are other devices on the market with a retina-like resolution at that screen size. Sorry for not taking the bait...
THAT is what a product evolution would be.
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I'm confused; a few years isn't long term? Regardless, I was talking about the next 18 months. And yes I agree its hard to predict the future but Apple's 18-month future looks incredibly promising.
But the bond market is going to be decimated in 1-2 years. We don't know when it will exactly happen, but it will. Anyone who invests in bonds right now will deserve what's coming to them. That's not to say AAPL is a better investment. I don't think it is. To me, a stock that doesn't pay robust dividends is not worth it.
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I stopped reading at this point. You have no idea what you're talking about.
my biggest problem with Apple isn't the stock price or the revenues, it's how little Tim Cook cares about investors. There are just so many tools in Apple's toolshed to prop up the stock, but they refuse to do it. At the end of the day, we can only point to Apple's treasure chest as a strength for so long. They have had 50+ billion in the chest for more than two years now, that's unacceptable.
so their R&D can add it this year and sit for the rest of the year on their lazy ass and do nothing while punching themselves on the chest saying that they "put out another magical and amazing product that changes everything"
You hit the nail on the head. Original iPhone was innovation. Unibody MBP, MBA was innovation. iPad was just an extension of the same iPhone concept but to Apple's credit they got it right - that was good execution.
But there has been little outside of the box thinking lately at Apple - everything is predictable and boring. To add to that, they are now following, not leading - 7" Tablets (they spent enormous time comparing it to Nexus 7), bigger screen iPhone, Notifications, Hybrid SSDs, iPhone still doesn't have the insane Battery life of RAZR Maxx, Note 2 etc.
Plus they continue to do so-so on the OS and cloud front - iCloud is in a rut, Maps fiasco, iOS is stale almost as BB now, OS X is mostly iOSification and bug fixing. Hell even on supply chain and quality control front they continue to have issues - Ghosting, lags on retina, all those alarm, wifi and clock related bugs on iOS, iMac availability etc. Point is they are not doing anything radical or challenging - for a company like Apple it is not a good thing.
and that is the whole reason why stocks are dropping. Investors and stock market already saw that, now its time that apple enthusiasts also embrace the reality and stop wondering "why the hell are the stocks falling?! whole stock market is maniuplated" and so on...
You can't be respected if you litter a bunch of bs in the middle of your argument. The iPad Mini is an innovation, the 8" tablet space has been dead and 7" was on the rise. the fact that Apple is bringing people back to 8" is leading. You also don't know crap about Hybrid SSDs as Apple is probably the first one to prop it up with a 128gb SSD. This is a BIG DEAL. iPhone still doesn't have the insane Battery life of RAZR Maxx, Note 2 etc. This is the most ridiculous of all. iPhone's battery life can only be judged in terms of utility, but it's all science. a phone that's twice your size can have twice your battery. no innovation/technology in the world can change that.
Sorry, the display required to do the iPad mini Retina does not exist. No one makes it yet. They could have done a "something else" using some 7" screen, but that would have required further iOS fragmentation.
I think the reason is that the display suppliers were not ready for it. Apple has this specific resolution constraint set by the OS. I think that the combination of that resolution and the size of the screen, is probably at the limit of what is currently possible in manufacturing terms. Current high resolution screens do not yet have the necessary resolution as the iPad mini would need, if Apple sticks to the resolution of the regular iPad.
It takes a certain amount of time for a manufacturer to be able to develop and produce such a screen at the necessary quantity.
So, I think in this case the demand for a small iPad was so huge (as was later demonstrated by huge sales) that Apple had to go for an in-between solution.
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it also is probably because of margins. Apple, at the end of the day, isn't in the business of cramming the best technologies at a good price point. they'll wait for component part costs to drop before indulging
Flat growth.
Let's see.
Take optical drives out of your desktop computers and not offer a mid range desktop sans monitor.
Yeah I can see flat growth from that.
Let's see.
Take optical drives out of your desktop computers and not offer a mid range desktop sans monitor.
Yeah I can see flat growth from that.
Indeed, that's a consequence of my point. Component parts become more cheap when the manufacturer can produce them more efficiently. This means a lot of demand and experience in production is necessary before the things get cheaper.
I think they set the price of the iPad mini so high in order to be able to get the retina screen in this year without having to increase the price. It will create w lot of whining for current owners, but Apple will be able to say "look, we put a retina screen in and we didn't even make it more expensive!".
While I understand your general idea... I think the difference is that neither of those companies were ever as successful as Apple is today.
Nokia used to be the volume smartphone leader... but their phones were also much cheaper across the globe. And the most profit Nokia ever made was $10 billion in a YEAR... Apple made more than that in a QUARTER.
And RIM never came anywhere close to selling 47 million phones nor $13 billion in profit in a single quarter.
There's never been a mobile phone company like Apple in history.
Maybe Apple thinks they're doing OK?
Yeah and you seem to think you know a lot about innovation like 128GB instead of 4GB (utility hardly matters here, eh?), 8" instead of 7" even if it was after the fact. Also a phone with twice the size has twice big a display and higher resolution in many cases and that requires more battery - that doesn't seem to be in your book too.
It's hard to even consider respect if you claim to have problem with bs and then go on to advocate it.