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Apple Stock Falls as Trump Tariffs Target Supply Chain
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I did. One strategy to deal with the increased cost of selling products in the US is to raise prices for your products globally.
Sly move, using the "Project 2025" agenda which Trump has repeatedly disavowed.
Yeah it’s just a shocking coincidence he picked key architects behind it for his cabinet and that 43% of Project 2025’s goals are already complete.
The rest of the world will set tariffs on american products as well. Will apple eat the costs, or pass them along to customers? I'm guessing the later, or at the very least, apple will share the cost.
Anyway a price increase for apple products worldwide is not out of the question.
The Apple of consequences rarely arrives pre-lubed.
Manufacturing jobs aren’t coming back. They don’t exist anymore.
How do we know this? Germany is a manufacturing economy with massive trade surpluses. German manufacturing jobs have been significantly declining for decades, too.
Just like the number of farming jobs have declined, the number of manufacturing jobs are declining.
There are strategic national security reasons to bring some manufacturing to U.S. soil, or its allies (that Trump is alienating for no good reason!) but creating jobs is not one of them. I also personally question anyone who thinks that factory jobs are desirable. Working in a factory sucks.
On the other hand, tariffs are definitely going to reduce economic activity, and cost countless jobs in the short, and long term. Especially, as other countries levy counter tariffs on American goods.
I'm sure that trade deals will be made. Trump just wants to make sure that cheap American products like food are included in these deals.
Apple does have a problem because of tight margins, but other companies for example buy clothes at a dollar, the impact will differ.
I think that raising tariffs is better than raising income taxes, in the end, that is the alternative.
Apple does have a problem because of tight margins, but other companies for example buy clothes at a dollar, the impact will differ.
I think that raising tariffs is better than raising income taxes, in the end, that is the alternative.
Now where is that guy that was so sure & yelling the tariffs are paid by the opposing country
The logic of the Trump administration is that you buy something from the local supermarket for $50 and now you have a $50 "trade deficit" with the supermarket because they didn't buy anything from you.
So you retaliate by imposing a $25 tariff on the supermarket.
The result is that the next time you go buy $50 worth of groceries, the supermarket will charge you $75.
I wish I was kidding, but this is the actual logic.
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Yes and the reason to not do that is Samsung exists.
You can raise your prices but if your main competitor can beat your price by a good margin it’s not good business sense.
The largest trading partner of Germany is the USA. So you can see why they have a massive trade surplus. And that is good for Germany, but not for the USA.
In the long term, this is what is best for the country, because with advances in AI and outsourcing jobs to cheap countries (this isn't just manufacturing, it's also office jobs), people are going to struggle to find good jobs in the USA if this keeps up. People just have to accept some short term pain for some long term gain.
And didn't Trump made an exception for semi-conductors? So those manufacturing jobs that MacRumors are so worried about doesn't even get affected that much.
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This thread has to be the biggest gathering of economists ever.
Alright, honestly, anyone who knows how to think critically and clearly can see that the world has long been an interconnected whole. Clinging to divisions based on ethnicity, nationality, or geopolitics only ends up hurting everyone. Historically, whenever tariffs and protectionism come into play—especially large-scale tariff wars or retaliations—it always leads to negative outcomes. No exceptions.
Unfortunately, as usual, the world—just like Liddell Hart said—doesn't learn from history how to do better, only how not to do worse.
From my perspective, the world (yes, the world—surely no one still thinks this only affects the U.S., right? Especially when some people can’t even tell whether the impact is good or bad—what a shame) is about to illustrate this rule more clearly than ever:
For those at the top: they must provide choices.
For those in the middle: they must make choices.
For those at the bottom: they have no choice.
All we can hope is that the choices in front of us are actually good ones...
Unfortunately, as usual, the world—just like Liddell Hart said—doesn't learn from history how to do better, only how not to do worse.
From my perspective, the world (yes, the world—surely no one still thinks this only affects the U.S., right? Especially when some people can’t even tell whether the impact is good or bad—what a shame) is about to illustrate this rule more clearly than ever:
For those at the top: they must provide choices.
For those in the middle: they must make choices.
For those at the bottom: they have no choice.
All we can hope is that the choices in front of us are actually good ones...
People don’t want American food. It has a terrible reputation worldwide rightly or wrongly for being full of chemicals and essentially poison. Trade barriers are the last thing standing in the way of foreign consumers buying American food.
It’s the same nonsense with American cars people simply don’t want them. The only brand that had a great reputation in Europe and was desirable has been burnt to the ground because the CEOs daughter is trans and he’s gone full anti woke.
If America made things that people wanted none of this would be an issue.
But Samsung’s costs have also gone up because of tariffs, so they have to increase their prices too.
I'm more interested in if the penguins (the birds) are going to move their factories to USA, cause trump placed retaliatory 10% tariffs on heard and mcdonald islands.
Not worldwide they haven’t. In the US they have. Samsung is a bigger player outside the US and are less exposed than apple to all this.
Importing a Samsung to the EU or Australia is the same today as yesterday.
Emotionally, part of me wants to see the world push back. But rationally, I truly hope that doesn’t happen. I believe the better path is for the American people to pause, reflect, and work through this themselves—with clarity and restraint.
Still, I have to face an uncomfortable reality: Trump continues to have over 40% support. That means there's a real chance my point of view might upset many Americans. I genuinely hope I’m wrong about that.
EU is doing the exact same thing Trump is doing. German car manufacturers would be out of business soon if the EU didn't impose tarriffs on Chinese cars, because nobody can compete against China at the moment when it comes to EV's.
Importing an iPhone into the EU and Australia is the same today as yesterday too.
China isn’t an ally of Europe. I never gave a year of my life to a Chinese war after they were attacked.
It’s not apples to apples.
Yes, the rest of the world will put tariffs on US products.
But iPhones are made in China.
So the rest of the word will keep all their prices the same, only US import and export will be affected.
Huge win for the USA. Or not.
Exactly my point and why they wouldn’t raise prices worldwide to offset the costs in to America.