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Apple Stock Price Hits Lowest Levels Since 2011, Falls Below $400
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The others did not catch up until late 2011 after Apple released the iPhone 4S. 29 months with a phone with the same look. Apple was literally waiting for the others to catch up.
Ive might be a creative mind behind Apple, and people love him for it, that does not mean he's a born leader breed. Do you think Einstein should be the president of United States? Really?
Just because he gets the passion and creativity does not mean that he fits for CEO. In fact, great artists never were. They were born to create, not lead.
Ive was the perfect tool for Steve to bring Apple products to the top position as of today, and that should never change.
IF IT AIN'T BROKE, don't fix it
So all in all you're suggesting Apple should become Samsung?
Besides Phablets are just WRONG. Hideous in sight and they really remind me of all those 80s trends that people make fun of today...
its not all bad - it makes macrumors forums a nicer place as there used to be so many AAPL gloaters when the stock was at $700 but now very few people admit to owning the shares...
edit apart from guy above me
It made me happy when it tanked after sitting above $700 because I sold at $700 against the advice of those guys here.
Unfortunately, I bought after the first huge dump, not knowing that another (not quite as) big one would follow. I'm still expecting to see it go up since the first dump was because it was overpriced and the second because of analysts.
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If they ever release a TV set, it had better be ridiculously amazing or else I'm selling right there.
Wikipedia is your friend:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Share_repurchase
Buyback reduces the float and increases EPS (earnings per share). Of course it has no effect on earnings in absolute terms, but the markets mostly care about EPS anyway.
Think expensive.
It's been 30 years and could you kindly tell me the figure of Mac market share in the whole computer market?
Oh yes, billions of people own at least one computer at home and how many people owns a Mac among them? Having a lot of mobile subscribers does not mean they're the potential market of six effin' hundred dollars handset. A phone could just reach 1% market and saturated already. Do not assume people don't buy iPhone because they could not afford it, some are simply not willing to buy it because $50 dumb feature phone works okay for them, why should they spend more for a frickin phone?
There are 7 billions of people on earth, does that mean any one of them could/should afford to invest in golds so potentially gold market has not even scratched the surface as of today. Does it?
i personally think that Apple needs to transition to newer hardware and software at faster intervals. like a bigger iPhone to give users a choice on what size screen that they want. and a newer iPad and iPad mini. like now
From an investment standpoint sure that's great, but if you're not an investor I wouldn't be bragging about that. "I'm proud I'm getting ripped off"
So all in all you're suggesting Apple should become Samsung?
Besides Phablets are just WRONG. Hideous in sight and they really remind me of all those 80s trends that people make fun of today...
Opinion much?
I love alot of the 80's stuff and I was only a baby then.
While I agree that Apple should offer the iPhone in 2 screen sizes, similarly to the iMac, MacBook and iPod lines, a lot of people are perfectly happy with smaller devices that actually fit in their pocket.
No. Apple should redesign iOS to enhance functionality and take advantage of high resolution displays and of the processing power of the more recent devices.
2013 Will be the Year to Make or Break Apple.
Apple has to come out with new Products and Innovation. The iPhone Design is over 7 Years old. Just Rehashing the iPhone with more memory and CPU is not going to cut it anymore.
Where is the New Mac Pro?, Why not enter into the Game Market with a Hardware IOS Device? Since Games it what drive 70% of the IOS App Store Revenue and IOS Device Sales.
This Year WWDC Developer Conference better make me say
They should make a gaming pad sort of like a psp/vita type of thing. Would give them more products and also something to more focus on games.
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So all in all you're suggesting Apple should become Samsung?
Besides Phablets are just WRONG. Hideous in sight and they really remind me of all those 80s trends that people make fun of today...
Phones are becoming consumption devices so the larger screens are great for videos, browsing the web, gaming etc. They aren't "wrong" it is just the old mentality of some that seem to make em that way. If they were wrong they wouldn't be selling like they are and smaller phones would be what is being made and sold.
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In the meantime Apple are still on their vacation.
This is completely unfair. Today they just updated their Cards app for Mother's Day. This sort of ground-breaking innovation shows that they are still hard at work at Cupertino.
Of course it's my opinion! What's your point?
I love a lot of the 80s stuff as well. Yet back then this was considered "cool"
...and this
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Sales figures don't mean much to me. Remember the "Netbook"? Only time will tell if this form factor is here to stay. Personally I just find their form hideous and their size completely impractical. They are too big to fit in your pocket and too small to replace a tablet.
Tim Cooks Predicated Comments
Predicted Tim comments for the earnings call next week,
"We are in very very very active discussions on the use of cash. As opposed to just very very. We are VERY serious about this (emphasis mine). It is an honor to have so much cash sitting in a bank earning 1.0% return for a year while competitors catch-up. In this new world, it takes us 9 months to make any large scale, meaningful decisions. My A-Team including my CFO-Head-In-The-Sand-Peter is all over what to do next"
AND
"The product pipeline is chock-full. So chock-full, it's backed up and we can't get anything out of it. It's like we are constipated. I'll get back to you in September"
AND
"TV is a very very very interesting area for us. We continue to pull the string to see where it takes us. No, we are now TUGGING that string. TUGGING now!. It's all very interesting to us. It's just an outstanding hobby. The current offering is like going back to 1875"
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"I look around the table and I'm more convinced then ever that everyone is at their A-Game. Never mind the fact we incinerated $250 billion in shareholder value over the last four months. Never mind that. A-Game. All the way"
Predicted Tim comments for the earnings call next week,
"We are in very very very active discussions on the use of cash. As opposed to just very very. We are VERY serious about this (emphasis mine). It is an honor to have so much cash sitting in a bank earning 1.0% return for a year while competitors catch-up. In this new world, it takes us 9 months to make any large scale, meaningful decisions. My A-Team including my CFO-Head-In-The-Sand-Peter is all over what to do next"
AND
"The product pipeline is chock-full. So chock-full, it's backed up and we can't get anything out of it. It's like we are constipated. I'll get back to you in September"
AND
"TV is a very very very interesting area for us. We continue to pull the string to see where it takes us. No, we are now TUGGING that string. TUGGING now!. It's all very interesting to us. It's just an outstanding hobby. The current offering is like going back to 1875"
AND
"I look around the table and I'm more convinced then ever that everyone is at their A-Game. Never mind the fact we incinerated $250 billion in shareholder value over the last four months. Never mind that. A-Game. All the way"
The point that gets missed way to often is that Apple's decrease in price has merely represented it returning to a realistic valuation from the massive bubble it has been in.
Right on - I fear you have captured the anticipated comments from the Empty Suit in Charge.
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"Realistic valuation" on what basis????
This was Jobs' philosophy, or one of his points. The customer doesn't know what they want, Jobs worked off that to think outside the box and push his company and idea's to their limits. Since Jobs' passing, there's a crucial component missing at Apple, like a clock without a gear, a man without heart. A lot of high level exec's have been shuffled around, come and gone, there is a lack of focus and stability. Sadly, it may never hit that level of creativity, risk and reward that gained Apple such recognition under Jobs. Tim Cook is a good CEO, but he's not the hard hitting extremist Jobs was in pushing the limits.
Let's look at the tale of the tape for 2013:
iPhone 5s: Will sale out for 2 months and then die quickly.
iPad 5: Will not sale out because of iPad mini. 7.9" is the new 9.7".
iPad mini: Retina model will be at least $400 or Apple will keep the same screen resolution. A $329 retina iPad mini will kill the 9.7" model. People don't want to pay $500 for a 9.7" iPad when a cheaper portable iPad mini is compatible with 9.7" iPad apps.
iOS 7: Will not be a major upgrade. Face it guys. Expect some gloss, polish and new switches. Nothing ground breaking.
Apple TV: Just a hobby.
Time to take the blinders off people. Apple can't keep up momentum. Apple is afraid of change. Apple ignores what's going on in the field and so do the people that fellow them.
Stock price this time next year: $300
iPhone 5s: Will sale out for 2 months and then die quickly.
iPad 5: Will not sale out because of iPad mini. 7.9" is the new 9.7".
iPad mini: Retina model will be at least $400 or Apple will keep the same screen resolution. A $329 retina iPad mini will kill the 9.7" model. People don't want to pay $500 for a 9.7" iPad when a cheaper portable iPad mini is compatible with 9.7" iPad apps.
iOS 7: Will not be a major upgrade. Face it guys. Expect some gloss, polish and new switches. Nothing ground breaking.
Apple TV: Just a hobby.
Time to take the blinders off people. Apple can't keep up momentum. Apple is afraid of change. Apple ignores what's going on in the field and so do the people that fellow them.
Stock price this time next year: $300
The End
It's all a Vast Conspiracy by the Haters. They saw Apple growing seemingly unending.
Then, a rumor here, a twisted report there, an accusation here and there. Apple's Legal Team. Those Freakin SOB's, we will get them. Who the hell does Apple think they are trying to get companies to think for themselves.
Everyone always wants to push the big kid off the curb.
Yada, yada, yada. Peter is planning on leaving in the not to distant future anyway. Tim needs to grow a pair(if he can.) If things are still going down at Q3 he will need to go unless he shows he can hit back.
It's all a Vast Conspiracy by the Haters. They saw Apple growing seemingly unending.
Then, a rumor here, a twisted report there, an accusation here and there. Apple's Legal Team. Those Freakin SOB's, we will get them. Who the hell does Apple think they are trying to get companies to think for themselves.
Everyone always wants to push the big kid off the curb.
Yada, yada, yada. Peter is planning on leaving in the not to distant future anyway. Tim needs to grow a pair(if he can.) If things are still going down at Q3 he will need to go unless he shows he can hit back.