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Stock manipulation at it's finest.

Legalized gambling the stock market is.

Apple seriously needs to make itself private. F' all the goddam stock investors; they don't need to answer to anyone but consumers.

Only when it goes down or it is also stock manipulation when it was going up?
 
The saddest part of the stock tanking is that I know more than one "regular person" who invested in Apple based not only on their fundamentals, but even more so on their personal experience with the quality of product, like iPhone, etc. In other words, they are so impressed that they invested in the company that made it! Imagine...

But Apple's fundamentals were great when they invested; still good now. The stock is getting hit because of lack of faith in current management and growth prospects. 60% emotional/gut decision to sell. It's an impossible job following Jobs, and Tim Cook is proving it. He hasn't given investors much comfort. Forget last year -- not one single product introduction in fiscal Q2. Now we are heading to mid Q3 and it doesn't look like any announcements are imminent.

Of course the stock market is quite fickle, and "what have you done for me lately," so this is hardly the Applepocalypse. All it takes is one new super cool product to change investors hearts, minds, and wallets.

Also, individual investors that don't have enough $ for a diversified portfolio should not be buying individual stocks. They should be in EFTs.
 
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Not sure if Ive is ready for it, but I do think he needs to start being more "front facing". It would be nice if he started participating in keynotes. Maybe start him off doing segments, until it gets to the point where he is opening and closing the keynotes. I understand peoples fear to speak in front of live audiences, but it is something you get use to the more you do.
 
Where are all the people championing the massive executive pay scales and bonuses....?

A big portion of their pay (see recent top executive pay for the year) was based on stock option payouts over time so they must perform well and stay with the company (if the stock continues to drop, so does their pay). To me, this seems like a pretty good way to do it rather than strictly really big salaries that aren't tied to performance.
 
Apple is overdue on a press event. Usually the next iPad is announced in March. I guess we'll have to wait till WWDC '13.
 
I don't see them ever revealing future product lines, but keeping quiet and not allowing executives to speak (outside of silly comments from Schiller) doesn't seem to be working.

I think their policy is the same as its always been with one exception. There is no longer a relatively steady stream of quips from Steve.

Regardless of your opinion of how well it went over, he consistently projected power and a sharp wit when chiming in on a current hot-button issue, or when his responses to customer emails were published.

How many times since his passing would he have made a snappy remark to subtly put the competition in their place? These are all missed opportunities, that kind of stuff resonated with the public and it made a difference.
 
They did it to themselves. For the longest time i blamed investors for not understanding apple. But now i see that Apple has been dismissive of market trends regarding screen size. It is insulting to loyal customers, and they're paying for it with lost revenue. Such a simple and obvious thing to miss, it makes you think apple is headed by morons.

Eventually Motorola will dominate smartphones, 2014 is their year. In the short terms it's Samsung, medium term HTC. Apple needs to switch into crisis mode badly and give us something great.
 
Scott Forstall will return in 2024 to take Apple from near bankruptcy.

Apple should not have kicked him out. He was the only guy there that came close to Jobs as far as presentation ability. Plus he had been in charge of iOS for 6 years, so he probably should not have been pushed out so quickly and replaced by a hardware guy. I think Ive is great, but after hearing about these iOS 7 delays it makes me believe that he's not experienced enough to get Apple going again. This is a critical time for them, they can't afford to delay.
 
Unfortunately nobody can replace the markets faith in Steve Jobs.

APPL had some nice 50% drops under Steve as well.

The latest crash is nothing new for long-term investors. Just another dip in the rollercoaster ride that is AAPL.
 
Jonathan Ivy. He's got the passion, creativity and vision to bring Apple back to the top of its game. He's not Steve but he's just as unique. Cook is too much of a numbers guy and lacks the showmanship and charisma that Apple is known and loved for.

It takes time to bring something really new and fascinating to the market. Satisfying customers' and investors' wants will only solve these problems for a short period of time which is not worth it.

I believe Apple is looking towards the future and long term growth with some other new technology.

Bringing forth these "innovative" products such as the Galaxy S4 will not solve their problems.

Remember, Steve didn't bring Apple to the top in one year. It took time.
 
Well, since October, Apple has done nothing. I would suggest that one possible strategy for reversing the stock's slide would be doing...
ANYTHING

If it's crickets until WWDC and then nothing but window-dressing there, then look out below.
 
Huuhh?

Buy at $500 they said...

It's undervalued they said...

Apple's net value or enterprise value is a little over 385 billion not above, with inflated value on stock market, meaning market capitalization, it is today undervalued since it has a 1.04 over enterprise value and in market trading that is very low for a company like Apple. Now it is a very good idea to buy stock, since the net asset value of the company, is, I repeat, 385+ billion, that means that if the company was appropriated by creditors, such creditors would be appropriating a the stated enterprise values, that is what the company is worth, since it has 120 billion in capital and net income is over 50 billion per year multiplied by lets say 5 years (which is a very low amount of years), plus patents, and many other assets.
If I had any money I would definitely buy, since stock falling below 385 dollars, would mean that the company is indeed undervalued, and for market capitalization, very very undervalued.
The difference between Mkt. Capitalization and Enterprise value, is that Market capitalization is what you get from public trading and preference of investors over the company as well as faith and betting on the company much like buying up futures. and the latter is the real value of a company.
 
Fear... Plain & simple. Apple has a fragile ego.

If suddenly they should become more open minded to customer preferences & the result is anything less than skyrocketing sales far beyond current levels, they'd have an internal revolt.

Apple is set in its ways which is not bad. It's just limiting. They've been stifled by the publics willingness to buy the brand. That's why the stock is soft.

Until they experience serious declines in sales they will avoid innovation beyond the little things they've done, & hyped till they seem like big things.

Call me crazy, but I don't consider shoving off the shelf hardware into a bunch of different case sizes. The innovation of Apple is the time and care spent on each release of their products. If Apple did decide to make half a dozen versions of the iPhone in an attempt to saturate the market, quality would suffer.

Also, as an app developer, I'm very thankful that I don't have to code to a bunch of different screen sizes and resolutions beyond what we currently have. Android is a pain in the ass given the fragmentation of the operation system and huge amount of devices. Sure the latest Android phone may give you some half-baked feature that has little support in real world application (NFC) however I'll take build quality and a solid product design over that any day.
 
its not all bad - it makes macrumors forums a nicer place as there used to be so many AAPL gloaters when the stock was at $700 but now very few people admit to owning the shares...

edit apart from guy above me:p

Ha ha. Good point. I'm going to have to change my signature line.

Which, in case this change changes the signature line retroactively, I will copy the relevant part below.:
Apple Stockholder (it's like a ponzi scheme, I buy Apple stuff but my stock keeps going up to cover the cost)

Though I'm still up enough to cover all my Apple stuff.
 
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You all can kiss innovative OSX development good bye. When a company's stock plummets like this they always pump their resources into their big revenue generators... iOS :(

Get your macs while they still make 'em. :)
 
iCloud is a mess
Apple maps, LOL
iPhone 5 with small screen
iOS is boring
iPad mini was expected
iMac production delays for 3 months


they have done nothing exciting in YEARS
 
APPL had some nice 50% drops under Steve as well.

The latest crash is nothing new for long-term investors. Just another dip in the rollercoaster ride that is AAPL.

Finally, someone with some knowledge on here, who understands the importance of long-term and isn't panicking for these common short term problems.
 
You are right

Only when it goes down or it is also stock manipulation when it was going up?
If the company was a private company the stock would not be worth more than 400 billion, but not less than 390 billion. The price of stock above that means gamble and market sentiment.
 
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