Apple Stops Selling 2015 MacBook Pro, Lineup Now Limited to Thunderbolt 3 Models [Updated]

[NT1440]

No IT manager worth their salt would even take the risk of having the disruption happen. Time is money, if you buy 100 machines and even a couple of them are out for a week-long repair per year that’s a headache you could do without.

Oh cut the crap. I worked at ESPN for years in IT and like *every other major company* they do the same 3 year lease cycle through vendors. Macs everywhere.

Guess what happens when a machine has trouble? We give them a loaner and repair the machine. Are you working in places where when a machine goes down there’s nothing to do but wait to fix it? If so, fire the IT director immediately because he’s a joke.

 

[kahkityoong]

How so? The ports? You gotta let go of the past sometimes man... USB, HDMI, etc.... all WILL BE in the past.

Fixed it for you. You're welcome.

 

[green86]

No IT manager worth their salt would even take the risk of having the disruption happen. Time is money, if you buy 100 machines and even a couple of them are out for a week-long repair per year that’s a headache you could do without.

Yea... Your dramatizing this problem. We've been buying the new models since they came out in 2016, and only an extremely small amount of our employees have had issues with their keyboards. I blame it on good hygiene.
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Oh cut the crap. I worked at ESPN for years in IT and like *every other major company* they do the same 3 year lease cycle through vendors. Macs everywhere.

Guess what happens when a machine has trouble? We give them a loaner and repair the machine. Are you working in places where when a machine goes down there’s nothing to do but wait to fix it? If so, fire the IT director immediately because he’s a joke.

WELL SAID. Thank you.

 

[FightTheFuture]

The best MacBook Pro they ever made.

Hopefully the conversation changes with the 2018 model.

 

[oldmacs]

I work for a major university, and only a small amount of our new MacBooks have seen issues. Most people love the Touch Bar too. Macrumors' audience is resistant to change, and not representative of the general Mac population.

I find its the other way around. In the real world people are behind what the 'techie' world is up to. I have a hard time demonstrating the benefits of the newer MacBooks over the MacBook Air and MacBook Pro 2015 to most clients, because they want ports and MagSafe.

 

[jinnyman]

The best MacBook Pro ever. Farewell. You were much better design than the current one.

 

[Blackstick]

They affect a small, messy percentage (Stop eating two inches from your MacBook People).

I work for a major university, and only a small amount of our new MacBooks have seen issues. Most people love the Touch Bar too. Macrumors' audience is resistant to change, and not representative of the general Mac population.

We have 750 Touchbars enrolled in Jamf and 62 have needed keyboard repairs over the last 12 months. That's a design failure.

 

[oldmacs]

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Oh cut the crap. I worked at ESPN for years in IT and like *every other major company* they do the same 3 year lease cycle through vendors. Macs everywhere.

Guess what happens when a machine has trouble? We give them a loaner and repair the machine. Are you working in places where when a machine goes down there’s nothing to do but wait to fix it? If so, fire the IT director immediately because he’s a joke.

3 year cycles of the age of the machine purchased, not necessarily the age of the machine on sale.

Yea... Your dramatizing this problem. We've been buying the new models since they came out in 2016, and only an extremely small amount of our employees have had issues with their keyboards. I blame it on good hygiene.

And maybe your experience is different to the wider population?

The reality is that laptops are made to be used and that means they will accumulate gunk underneath keys. The fact Apple didn't consider this while designing the keyboard is an absolute joke.

 

[kuwxman]

Why...

Because many people, myself included, prefer the wide array of ports.

I personally purchased the '15 model in 2016 when the new models with USB-C came out. Eff using dongles...

 

[2ilent8cho]

Why...

MagSafe, makes a nice noise when you turn it on, glowing apple, better keyboard. I don't dislike the new Macbook Pro, i just prefer the older model.

 

[kuwxman]

How so? The ports? You gotta let go of the past sometimes man... USB, HDMI, etc.... all in the past.

lol, you're probably one of those people that don't see the use of the 10-key keyboards either...

 

[Blackstick]

lol, you're probably one of those people that don't see the use of the 10-key keyboards either...

Most of our finance/accounting people would never let go of their 10-key, some of the devs too.

 

[Val-kyrie]

Because its a better laptop for many people.

Except that this model only had integrated graphics. If it had ThunderBolt 3, instead of TB2, it would have been perfect to use with an eGPU.

 

[thadoggfather]

I think not giving people an abundant-port and old keyboard model will just push people into pc market instead of forcibly pushing them into new design mbp. It’s not like 2018 has fixed these concerns

This will be the final straw for people who purposefully didnt opt for the new gens. Those that it wasn’t a dealbreaker, already have a newer one and probably don’t feel like forking over again so soon

Could be wrong but .. I think this will backfire big time for alienating the professional market That has a different set of needs

 

[ManicanParty49]

Pour one out

 

[MacRS4]

Just ordered the i9/32Gb/512Gb...Which is a bit irritating as today I had a Surface Book 2 delivered. Ahaha. Sigh.

 

[Superhappytree]

If Jobs was alive maybe the TouchBar Macs wouldn't be so bad.

The TouchBar is one of those things that Jobs would either shoot down completely or say: “It’s not good enough, something is off about it, this and this needs to be changed, this just sucks, make it better” etc. With him no longer there though we get the TouchBar we have now which makes us question its existance more than anything, amongst other WTF’eries and decisions from today’s Apple. He is no longer there to shoot down ideas or tweak them for “not being good enough”. This is the problem Apple is facing as they no longer have that filter or any perfectionist at all with a clear vision, intuition and knack for knowing what would make a product great like Jobs. Cook certainly isn’t involving himself in the products like that.

 

[Wando64]

You all say what you want, but I have a 2012 quad i7 Mac mini and a 2015 i7 mbp and I feel like I’ve never had better equipment in my all life.
Don’t forget your can of compressed air.
Cheerio.

 

[ateslik]

No, this is majorly false. Maybe it was done to cut costs... but you get what you pay for. Our pros and creatives just love them, and so do a few of our IT guys.

Um, it wasn't a subjective statement. There is no "mabye" for this or that reason, and it wasn't to cut costs. I was part of the team that made the decision, and that is the exact reason we did it. Sorry if you don't like to hear that.

We cannot run a business with a partner that makes irresponsible decisions that directly impact our workflows. Killing Final Cut 7 with no viable replacement was the first blow - and the most painful. Killing quicktime on windows with no replacement was the second. No hardware updates ---FOR YEARS--- was the third. Fortunately we got out before this last mistake of expensive underpowered hardware that requires significant additional spend just to use what we already have. Apple is not a reliable business partner. They have and will continue to make decisions that will cost your company employee resources finding alternative solutions, or money, or both.

 

[citysnaps]

Finally!

I'm still super stoked with my 2017 MBP.

 

[Baymowe335]

lol Apple's 2nd slogan: Apple: Profit over user experience.

[1st?: Apple:The iPhone & Dongle Company]

You think they did this so they could make money on dongles? Really? You know Apple made over $50B in after tax profit right? I bet all the dongle profit combined is something like 0.01% of that.

 

[ipponrg]

I think not giving people an abundant-port and old keyboard model will just push people into pc market instead of forcibly pushing them into new design mbp

This will be the final straw for people who purposefully didnt opt for the new gens. Those that it wasn’t, already have a newer one.

Could be wrong but .. I think this will backfire big time for alienating the professional market That has a different set of needs

I think if MacOS didn't exist, it would definitely push people. The problem where I work is that we all LOVE MacOS with its unix subsystem w/ all our custom scripts and such. That alone keeps us locked into Macs. If we could run MacOS on non MBPs without hurdles, then that could be an alternative. We all know that would never happen which is pretty sad.

However, I agree with you that having available ports without carrying a dongle is always the preferred way for being productive. My 2016 MBP with garbage USB-C ports is hardly used compared to my 2015 MBP.

 

[MacBH928]

This step was one of the worst decisions Apple made. They made a touchbar that no one is interested in, but they took the USB-As and HDMIs and SD card slots that everyone uses and implemented USB-Cs that I still have to see gadget/tool that uses it.

It was so easy to keep 2 USB-As and 2 USB-Cs and 1 SD slot and 1 HDMI. Everyone wins... going all USB-C is at least 5 years too early.

 

[ios-dan]

No serious corp is going to buy mac, period. Insanely high prices and terrible connectivity. No one is buying a boatload of expensive and easy to lose dongles for their employees to use the conference rooms and USB.

We abandoned macs a long time ago when it became clear they didn't give a crap about pro workflows. TRUTH.

Then why are you even on this website? Weird.
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Eff using dongles...

Right, so don't use dongles. Just get new cables. There, I solved your problem for you.

 

[thadoggfather]

going all USB-C is at least 5 years too early.

My concern is, and it will be apples
Problem to deal with, is many usb-c cables and accessories are shady with power specs and could fry your board

It’s not like usb-a where you
Don’t have to think twice about how cheap or shady of an accessory/cable you’re hooking up. It just works.

With usb-c it works or it doesn’t or it does somewhat. And then its impact on the machine if lower quality will not necessarily be immediately known. It’s a great port but finnicky in its requirements