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I'm one of those who didn't jump when they should have... can anyone tell me where I might still find a new or (APPLE ONLY) refurbished 2015 Macbook Pro? I have several of them, and actually prefer them more (keyboard, ports) than the newer ones.... thanks in advance!
The refurb section of the Apple Store (online).

I am sure an actual brick and mortar Apple Store will have them lying around.
 
If you’re university faculty, I’m surprised you’re concerning yourself with a “sample” of five notebook computers out of dozens of millions sold in the first place.

If you have read my post, you have noticed that I admitted that the sample was small, and that I also said that I am curious of what others have to report about other, if possible larger, samples. I am sure there are other people (e.g., IT service staff in large organisations) who could post more relevant statistics than mine. If my post motivates replies with larger samples, that will be useful, I think. We would get more data, and a better understanding of the significance of the issue.

So, did you read it ? Do you have more data to bring up ?

(Btw: the fact that they sold millions of laptops does not really matter here; what matters is the size of the sample itself; if someone was able to post about, say a hundred, or a thousand machines, we would gain a lot of information already).
 
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I'm one of those who didn't jump when they should have... can anyone tell me where I might still find a new or (APPLE ONLY) refurbished 2015 Macbook Pro? I have several of them, and actually prefer them more (keyboard, ports) than the newer ones.... thanks in advance!

Most any Apple reseller. Other World Computing for example has them. Amazon likely does too.
 
Dang it, I need a terabyte 2015 model. Although I'm only using 150 gb out of 750 on my current MacBook Pro, these models aren't ones that are easily upgradeable drive space wise. I'm just not comfortable with a 512 gb version.
 
They affect a small, messy percentage (Stop eating two inches from your MacBook People).

I've been using MBPs for 8 years for my primary job (software development). I don't eat near my laptop (half the time it is closed, and I use an external keyboard). I never had keyboard issues until I "upgraded" last year. I've had 3 keys fail on the touchbar model over 12 months. Even when the keyboard is working perfectly, it is crap to type on.
 
A sad farewell to the last laptop apple will ever make for people that actually need to do actual WORK on their computers.

People were saying the same when the non-retina 2012 15" MBP went out of sale..
Has time proven them wrong? Yes. Will time prove you wrong? I'm willing to bet!
 
I'm not saying that this is wrong, I'm a shareholder. I'm just stating the fact that the immediate result of the decision of selling you the ports after the first sale, instead of including them in the product, is that Apple makes more money this way. We just didn't had the technology to do this before. Apple is a public corporation, their purpose is to increase value for their shareholders, corporations do that by making good ROI decisions. Switching from ports to dongles is one of those decisions, and profits are the primary benefit for Apple and their shareholders.

It's fair to compare a dongle to a scratch on the screen, but it's way harder to convince customers that scratches are "the future of computing", you gotta figure out your go-to-market strategy. If you can manufacture an essential product for $2 that customers then have to buy for $20, then that's an awesome product for the business, with an immense profit margin. Even if you have to make some awful product design decisions to make it work, it is still an unbeatable business decision. That's how you create a consumer product company as incredibly rich as Apple...
I think Apple understands their customers very deeply which is confirmed with their sales. They have tons of data we never will see that supports their decision making process.
 
Dang it, I need a terabyte 2015 model. Although I'm only using 150 gb out of 750 on my current MacBook Pro, these models aren't ones that are easily upgradeable drive space wise. I'm just not comfortable with a 512 gb version.

These models actually have a standard (to Apple) drive slot, so its possible to upgrade your storage if you need it. Not Apple sanctioned, naturally, but still an option.
 
These models actually have a standard (to Apple) drive slot, so its possible to upgrade your storage if you need it. Not Apple sanctioned, naturally, but still an option.

Really? I thought it went to PCI-E for their SSDs or whatever it's called and third party options were very hard to come by.
 
There was so much rage when VGA was going out the door.

It's the same thing again, they just can't believe USB-A is old tech.

People need to move on, to better things.

This kind of false equivalence is so tiresome. USB-A is everywhere. Today. Right now. I needed USB-A adapters constantly with my 2017 MacBook Pro.

VGA actually was old tech by the time you needed to carry an adapter around. Personally, I never needed a whatever-to-VGA adapter. Not one single time.
 
There was so much rage when VGA was going out the door.

It's the same thing again, they just can't believe USB-A is old tech.

People need to move on, to better things.

Usb A is old tech. But still very useful. I’d say probably more useful that usb C at the moment.
Want to upgrade storage on a new MBPro ...
On the “old” MBPro there are nice and tiny USB A 256G drives. Or 256G micro SD cards for sd card slot.
 
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Many people still like having multiple native port options even at the cost of a little extra thickness. Many power users don’t like worrying about dongles.

I really wonder why they are still so staunch on this for the Pro line. It just seems logical to have multiple options, not just a more suped up Macbook or Air.
 
Apple must have had a lot of overstock to be getting rid of the last of the 2015 as 'clearance' - they aren't discounting them at all in the UK as far as I can see. This could be a clue for the fate of the Mac Mini and MacBook Air if and when they are superseded.

I do note that the 2017 Refurb models took a price cut in the Apple Store though.

The new 15" MacBook Pros may have adopted the old price points but there is now a gap at the 2015's old price point making the entry price of a Mac laptop with 15" screen ever more expensive unless we will be seeing a sneaky budget 15" model with i7-8705G in October after Back to School has finished. Very unlikely though.

Without going into a 21.5" iMac (or a Mac Mini) it would appear that Apple have passed on Intel's Kaby Lake +G CPUs.
 
The early 2015 MacBook Pro is my first and only Mac and I love it. I was scared to jump and am so glad I got this computer. Upped the ram to 8GB and storage to 512.
 
Finally! Apple needs to keep up this trend and kill off the Air!
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HDMI a thing of the past? lol in which little world are you living?
You don't have to make stuff up to have a valid opinion.

It definitely is. We have wireless screen casting now.
 
Yea... Your dramatizing this problem. We've been buying the new models since they came out in 2016, and only an extremely small amount of our employees have had issues with their keyboards. I blame it on good hygiene.

Gee.. What a grandiose, unverifiable claim...
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Finally! Apple needs to keep up this trend and kill off the Air!
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It definitely is. We have wireless screen casting now.

Nice try.
Define "we"?

"We" have hypersonic planes and microscopes that can make atoms visible for that matter.
Only thing is, it has little relevance to most people's living rooms, or any odd conference room.
 
Because its a better laptop for many people.


I agree with this statement - I have a ton of connectors and items that work well with my older Macbook Pro/Airs

The new TB3/USB-C model, while nice, required all new adapters and connectors - what a PITA! Typical Apple - now they are thinking of changing the iPhone 9/XPlus to USB-C... there goes all my lightning peripherals/cables I have purchased over the years (and have a ton of).

Listen - no one is ever going to be enthused by a lot of radical changes - we all hated it when the superdrive was removed, and then FW 400/800. I wouldn't bitch, if their devices weren't so damn expensive.
 
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