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As of today, Apple has stopped signing iOS 9.3.2 and iOS 9.3.3 for compatible iPhone, iPad, and iPod touch models, meaning users can no longer upgrade or downgrade to those versions of iOS using iTunes. Apple is now only signing iOS 9.3.4.

iOS 9.3.2, initially released to the public on May 16, 2016, was an update that initially bricked some 9.7-inch iPad Pro devices until an updated version was released on June 2.

iOS 9.3.2 was followed by iOS 9.3.3, released on July 18, and iOS 9.3.4, released on August 4. iOS 9.3.2 and iOS 9.3.3 were both compatible with the recent Pangu iOS jailbreak software, which is disabled by iOS 9.3.4.

Now that Apple has stopped signing iOS 9.3.2 and iOS 9.3.3, it is no longer possible to downgrade to a version of iOS that supports the Pangu jailbreak.

Article Link: Apple Stops Signing iOS 9.3.2 and iOS 9.3.3
 

redheeler

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Update: Apple has also stopped signing iOS 9.3.3, meaning it is no longer possible to downgrade to a version of iOS that supports the most recent jailbreak.
Unusual to stop signing two versions at the same time, but it's obvious why they did it. It would be nice if Apple gave iPhone and iPad owners proper downgrade rights.
 

RedOrchestra

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Can hardly wait until they stop signing 9.3.4, the jailbreak break edition so it no longer shows up on my Phone and Pad - that Apple sure are cheeky little devils.
 
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Kaibelf

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Unusual to stop signing two versions at the same time, but it's obvious why they did it. It would be nice if Apple gave iPhone and iPad owners proper downgrade rights.

"Proper downgrade rights" = Apple continues to accommodate people who refuse to upgrade but still insist on tying up support resources because they want to complain about something like redesigned buttons. Also, these very same people then complain when they aren't given all kinds of security updates and immediately run to the first lawyer they see crying about a class action lawsuit because the world moves along without them.
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Darn you, Apple. Some of us don't want to be brainwashed inside your walled garden.

The road to android is right over there.
 

Vorkeyjones

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Didn't even know they were still being signed. I could have upgraded my iPhone 6 to iOS 9.3.3. Doh!
 

redheeler

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"Proper downgrade rights" = Apple continues to accommodate people who refuse to upgrade but still insist on tying up support resources because they want to complain about something like redesigned buttons.
The group of users you're talking about is made up of people not likely to update to a new version at all. And why would they if they know they can't even choose to go back?
Also, these very same people then complain when they aren't given all kinds of security updates and immediately run to the first lawyer they see crying about a class action lawsuit because the world moves along without them.
Was Apple ever sued for dropping support for an older version of MacOS with a small but loyal user base, or an older version of iOS that some devices couldn't update past? Not to my knowledge.
 
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The group of users you're talking about is made up of people not likely to update to a new version at all. And why would they if they know they can't even choose to go back?

Was Apple ever sued for dropping support for an older version of MacOS with a small but loyal user base, or an older version of iOS that some devices couldn't update past? Not to my knowledge.
To be fair, the OS X/macOS userbase is at least somewhat, if not quite a bit different in size and type compared to that of iOS.
 

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This whole OS signing is a load of crap. Just let people install whatever OS and whatever version of app store apps they want. Nobody is stopping me from downgrading to System 7.5 on my Performa and downgrading to Microsoft office 98...so why should the phone be any different? Its just one more control for forced obsolescence. Once you upgrade your iPhone to the latest OS and you decide that it is a big mistake (as it is way too slow now)...boom..tooooooo late! Proof that you really don't control anything you purchase from Apple.

And the Apple fanboy kingdom is going to come up with some reason why its good that Apple makes all your decisions for you....so brace for it.
 

KALLT

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Can hardly wait until they stop signing 9.3.4, the jailbreak break edition so it no longer shows up on my Phone and Pad - that Apple sure are cheeky little devils.

At which point it will be iOS 10 or, if your device is not going to get iOS 10, the signing will never stop. There is no escape.
 

tentales

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This is hardly a brainwash, stopping support for buggy versions
Every version is "buggy" only to different degrees. Some people don't need new emojis or other undesirable upgrades.
Many past versions have often been more stable than newer releases. Users should have a choice how they like to use the device they've paid big $$ for.
 

tentales

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Apple continues to accommodate people who refuse to upgrade

How so ? The first question I always hear from a support person when anyone comes in with a problem is, "Have you updated to the newest version?"
The road to android is right over there.
Apple bigot! Just because some people have legitimate complaints about how Apple force-manages their devices, doesn't give you the right to tell them to dump it and break the eco system they've invested in.
ALL platforms have issues, if no one's ever allowed to criticize a manufacturers design choices, we'd never see improvements or consumers would receive even less for higher prices.
 
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now i see it

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The number one reason that Apple gives away its OSes for free is so that they then can jamb it down our throats whether we want it or not.

That's the only reason.

The worst part about this is that there's no convenient way to stop these dam updates from automatically downloading on to the phone when on wifi. Sure we can try to remember to disconnect wifi every single time we're plugged in and locked, but inevitably we forget some times.. and then blammo- its download.

Then come the constant nag screens to install it that pop up randomly throughout the day. Sure, we can choose "later", but I've almost hit "install now" mistakenly a few times. Holy crap!

Sure we can delete the update to buy us a little time before it auto-downloads again... But inevitably it always ends up back on the phone no matter how diligent we are at disconnecting wifi when plugged in.

Sure we could reconfigure the router to ignore Apple servers.... But who wants to muck around with that?

This auto-download of iOS updates, with no easy way to stop it, along with incessant pop up nag screens to install it ...really degrades the iOS experience.

Sure security fixes are good. But pushed iOS updates that slow down the phone so much that it becomes unbearable to use.....SUCK
 
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How so ? The first question I always hear from a support person when anyone comes in with a problem is, "Have you updated to the newest version?"

Apple bigot! Just because some people have legitimate complaints about how Apple force-manages their devices, doesn't give you the right to tell them to dump it and break the eco system they've invested in.
ALL platforms have issues, if no one's ever allowed to criticize a manufacturers design choices, we'd never see improvements or consumers would receive even less for higher prices.

1. The reason they ask that is so that they don't waste their time trying to address complaints about versions of the OS which are not going to be supported.

2. Let's not pretend like if you have Apple devices you were somehow hoodwinked into an experience that you didn't know about. Apple is not going to follow the MS model where you have people on WinXP for over a decade. That's not their target market, and buying into Apple's ecosystem and then complaining about how it operated as if it's a surprise is nothing more than willful ignorance or, at best, being extremely disingenuous. The phones have been coming out and things have operated this way for ten years.
 

JosephAW

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That's okay. I'm happy with iOS 8.4.1 and its compatibility with more desktop computers which will help in the resale value when I purchase my iPhone 8.
 
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