Apple Stops Signing iOS 9.3.2 and iOS 9.3.3

[639051]

lol. Okay. Sure. Read a few release notes for iOS apps and tell me that these are complex issues that couldn't have been found with better testing and more skilled programmers.

Yeah, Apple just said "put our cut rate programmers on our primary product and cut testing while you're at it!". That must be what have happened.

Or, you have no clue what you're rambling on about because you have no experience with the software development cycle of any major product.
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Or just go android. Problem solved. That is until you deal with android issues.

Don't waste time on them... they assume they know everything about everything and that all software bugs are simple fixes. It amazes me people can still take this view about things now days.

 

[S.B.G]

With 9.3.5 just being released, it now makes sense why they stopped signing 9.3.3 so quickly.

 

[C DM]

lol. Okay. Sure. Read a few release notes for iOS apps and tell me that these are complex issues that couldn't have been found with better testing and more skilled programmers.

Some could, others not so much, at least not without more than perhaps reasonable amount of time and resources than would typically be allotted for releases.

 

[997440]

but you can downgrade to windows 8, 7, xp, switch to linux, make it a hackintosh, run your own homemade os... it's not locked down

many people that dont like signing dont like it because they want jailbreakable firmware. windows can give root access without hacks, so windows doesnt even have that problem.

I understand the dislike of both the signing and of the nag. Best to send Apple feedback.

You can't downgrade W10 after a certain amount of time if you've taken the free upgrade from W7 or W8. Beyond that, maybe if you've saved a clone you can revert but I'm not sure of its legality. I don't know about the retail version's license either. And of course you can switch or change OSes or not use any particular one, including iOS.

My post simply pointed out that the iOS download and nag is not the same as W10's forced updating which downloads and installs. MSFT has locked down their W10 OS doing that, and in other ways as well.

We help each other and device researchers by posting accurate information, to the best of our ability. That's what I did, and meant no harm.

 

[B4U]

Certainly various security fixes. I believe there was some more with 9.3.3 as far as some bug fixes and the like in addition to security fixes.

Guess it is time to get the 9.3.4, given it has been out for a while and there are enough users to test it...
Oh wait, here comes 9.3.5...
Oh dear...

 

[tentales]

One of the problems is with developers (like Apple). In the 80s and 90s you had to make sure the software you shipped was near perfect, or you'd be shipping out bug fixes on floppies. Todays approach is ship now, fix later. Software has just become sloppy over the years. Who cares about fixing bugs before a release when you can make the user update 42 times in a year?

Only people past primary school age in the 80s and have actually written more than 100K lines of code are allowed to comment on this.
Guess you remember that era when developers were called "programmers", then software engineers and a bunch of other names. Quiche anyone ?

Not only was software shipped in "near perfect" state, it was allowed to have longer development/update cycles because stability in production environments was paramount and before any IT department in any large company deployed a new release there was often months of internal testing involved. Very little was outsourced and people with degrees in mathematics and computer science were payed decent salaries to write decent programs.

Today, 99% of what's in the "App Store" bores me because it's mostly Games, money scams and buggy as hell.

 

[C DM]

Only people past primary school age in the 80s and have actually written more than 100K lines of code are allowed to comment on this.
Guess you remember that era when developers were called "programmers", then software engineers and a bunch of other names. Quiche anyone ?

Not only was software shipped in "near perfect" state, it was allowed to have longer development/update cycles because stability in production environments was paramount and before any IT department in any large company deployed a new release there was often months of internal testing involved. Very little was outsourced and people with degrees in mathematics and computer science were payed decent salaries to write decent programs.

Today, 99% of what's in the "App Store" bores me because it's mostly Games, money scams and buggy as hell.

There was also little expectation for something new in any sort of quick timeframe from the consumers, who paled in numbers compared to consumers of software today too. There were also differences in the software as well, with a lot of it being much more focused on some specific tasks and/or being simpler in various aspects compared to what it's all like today. That said, there were still issues here and there that required some sort of support, hotfixes, etc.

 

[Cineplex]

Only people past primary school age in the 80s and have actually written more than 100K lines of code are allowed to comment on this.
Guess you remember that era when developers were called "programmers", then software engineers and a bunch of other names. Quiche anyone ?

Not only was software shipped in "near perfect" state, it was allowed to have longer development/update cycles because stability in production environments was paramount and before any IT department in any large company deployed a new release there was often months of internal testing involved. Very little was outsourced and people with degrees in mathematics and computer science were payed decent salaries to write decent programs.

Today, 99% of what's in the "App Store" bores me because it's mostly Games, money scams and buggy as hell.

I remember when programmers had to make video games in assembly code for the SNES and fit hours of game play into 4MB...without tons of bugs and super optimized code. Sure there are a few that snuck past, but not many. A SNES cartridge had to be perfect. Those were real software programmers. Todays developers are just using an layer of abstraction and have little idea how the hardware really works. While there is a lot of skill required to develop today....the real heroes are the assembly programmers. These guys today couldn't hold a candle to them. Just looking at a bug fix in YouTube that is waiting to be updated: "Fixed bug that causes thumbnails to be greyed out when you scroll down and then back up". Really? If that doesn't say the state software development is in, I don't know what does.

 

[iBluetooth]

Every version is "buggy" only to different degrees. Some people don't need new emojis or other undesirable upgrades.
Many past versions have often been more stable than newer releases. Users should have a choice how they like to use the device they've paid big $$ for.

But these bugs were serious security flaws, of course they were patched. You have the choice of not updating, so what is your issue?

The number one reason that Apple gives away its OSes for free is so that they then can jamb it down our throats whether we want it or not.

That's the only reason.

The worst part about this is that there's no convenient way to stop these dam updates from automatically downloading on to the phone when on wifi. Sure we can try to remember to disconnect wifi every single time we're plugged in and locked, but inevitably we forget some times.. and then blammo- its download.

Then come the constant nag screens to install it that pop up randomly throughout the day. Sure, we can choose "later", but I've almost hit "install now" mistakenly a few times. Holy crap!

Sure we can delete the update to buy us a little time before it auto-downloads again... But inevitably it always ends up back on the phone no matter how diligent we are at disconnecting wifi when plugged in.

Sure we could reconfigure the router to ignore Apple servers.... But who wants to muck around with that?

This auto-download of iOS updates, with no easy way to stop it, along with incessant pop up nag screens to install it ...really degrades the iOS experience.

Sure security fixes are good. But pushed iOS updates that slow down the phone so much that it becomes unbearable to use.....SUCK

You can't update by mistake. Firs you have to hit "Yes" on install and then you have to "Accept" the EULA. So, it's hard to do by mistake. My only conclusion is that you have newer owned an iPhone, because otherwise you would know this.