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I think it really is under stated how hard it’s going to be to market these things when they try to go mass market. You could see and understand someone using an iPhone by them showing it to you. Doesn’t seem like that’s going to be the case for the Vision Pro. I’m still optimistic but concerned.
I think the marketing is hardest pre-launch. I’m really surprised how much misunderstanding and underestimating there is of this device. But that’s been the story for pretty much every new Apple device for the past 25 years - mock it, understand it, then copy it.

It should clear up once the reviewers, news outlets, celebrities, and social media get their hands on it. Apple Vision Pro will seem like such a strange, nerdy device until a few million people see the inevitable videos of Taylor Swift or Lebron James getting their mind blown.
 
I’m hoping Apple gives us all the ordering details BEFORE ordering time. For iPhones and other devices, it takes maybe a minute from beginning to end of the ordering process. Something like this sounds like it would take a while to make sure all the measurements are right. This would disadvantage those who have strange shaped heads or perhaps those with prescriptions. With Kuo saying only 80,000 units are available at the start, things may sell out before people even figure out how to order.
 
The scan doesn’t GO anywhere. It’s detecting your sizing on-device to choose from a limited set of sizes. It’s not uploading your face for molded components.

Tell that to all these people still using CASH every day because they don’t want Apple and the government to know what they buy haha I still receive passwords by letter 😭
 
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Apple Vision Pro will seem like such a strange, nerdy device until a few million people see the inevitable videos of Taylor Swift or Lebron James getting their mind blown.
Yeah, I was thinking that Taylor Swift’s fans would all talk their parents into buying an AVP if they could see immersive video of her concert(s).
 
Yup. With iPhone pre orders, you could use the Apple Store app on your iPhone or iPad to configure the iPhone (storage, color, payment, etc) and quickly place your pre-order when the store opened. I certainly hope the same will be done with the AVP.

We need the various measurements of the straps, etc. to be determined before ordering with this app.

Amount of memory/storage (if there are options).

Eyeglass prescription. Very importantly we need to know the focal distance of the AVP. I suspect it will be similar to other VR devices, with a far correction at about 5 to 6 feet. Apple really needs to get this info out right away. I set up an appointment with the optometrist next week to get the latest refraction.
I disagree because this is a fundamentally new type of device. Many people, possibly even the majority, still don’t have any experience at all with VR. You cannot really explain it without seeing it for yourself. It’s hard to believe the scale it is able to convey just by having it be told to you.

The iPhone was a lot simpler, but even if you found that a difficult concept someone could just hand you their iPhone to tinker with. If you use another person’s Vision Pro it won’t fit correctly and will be a crummy experience.
 
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So… what happens if you want to share the device with family members?
Most other VR headsets manage to get by with one-size-fits-all, so I imagine it won't be awful if the size doesn't fit exactly, especially for shorter sessions. For longer sessions, simply buy another Light Seal or strap, or use a 3rd party one.
 
I mean, as long as the one who bought it and the one who wants to try it on have similar head/face dimensions then it should be ok.

my thing is that they better allow you to do the sizing BEFORE preorders open up lol.
You should be able to preorder first, and then scan to make sure the one you actually receive has the best fit.
 
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Expensive gadget toy for the rich or crazy.

Next.....
The Vision Pro is by no means the most expensive Apple devices. People don’t think twice before ordering their $4,000+ MacBook Pro or Mac Studio. Think of this as buying a virtual MacBook Pro. Sure the SoC isn’t an M3 Max, but you’re paying for a much bigger monitor.
 
Considering it was originally called “Head Measure and Fit” and icons support 11-15 characters, I think it’s obvious why they did this.
 
It’s probably also done so that the users facial model (used for the eyes on the outside of display and FaceTime) is ready to go once the user gets home and starts using it.
 
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I do not see this product in this form ever being huge. It is great, I am sure. But I personally look at this and feel no desire. This is the first major new Apple product that has hit me this way in...decades. I am old, I hope that it is highly successful.
 
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Exactly what I was thinking. Is Apple seriously thinking every member of the house is going to buy separate $3500 headsets?
Since there's only going to be 80,000 for sale next Friday, I'd say no. The is a first-of-its-kind, first generation product not meant for the mass audience. This is for early adopters that gets them sufficient revenue to cover small portions of the 10 years+ of R&D Apple put into this product. It's also for Apple to see who uses what and how. Early adopters can be considered beta testers, essentially. The next version is for a wider audience and probably won't have a "Pro" moniker. But the next version will probably have a lot of plastic, no 4K per eye microLED screens, and will be missing many other features the Pro has. Or maybe the mass market version will be a set of glasses rather than a headset.

New technology has to start somewhere. The first folding phone cost twice the price of flagship phones for little benefit and still is at least 50% more expensive after five years. Very few people bought them initially. Expect spatial computing devices to continue to cost a lot for several more iterations until it becomes common.
 
Since there's only going to be 80,000 for sale next Friday, I'd say no. The is a first-of-its-kind, first generation product not meant for the mass audience. This is for early adopters that gets them sufficient revenue to cover small portions of the 10 years+ of R&D Apple put into this product. It's also for Apple to see who uses what and how. Early adopters can be considered beta testers, essentially. The next version is for a wider audience and probably won't have a "Pro" moniker. But the next version will probably have a lot of plastic, no 4K per eye microLED screens, and will be missing many other features the Pro has. Or maybe the mass market version will be a set of glasses rather than a headset.

New technology has to start somewhere. The first folding phone cost twice the price of flagship phones for little benefit and still is at least 50% more expensive after five years. Very few people bought them initially. Expect spatial computing devices to continue to cost a lot for several more iterations until it becomes common.
Do you really think folding phones are ever going to take off? They make up less than 2% of the market today.
 
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Do you really think folding phones are ever going to take off? They make up less than 2% of the market today.
I'd love to have one that wasn't awful, and there's a lot of reason to think that such a device may exist someday based on the progress we can see being made with the current attempts. Each generation seems to have fewer compromises and drawbacks than the previous. I think it's an apt analogy to VR/AR devices.

AVP is clunky and undesirable in the same way that the early folding phones are, but the promise is sexy and appealing if they can ever get the form factor to a more consumer-friendly package.
 
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