Apple Store Back Up With Preorders for 15-Inch MacBook Air, Mac Pro and Mac Studio

[telo123]

Hmm ... I think I'll wait for Face ID to be integrated before I upgrade from my M1 16gb air

 

[CarAnalogy]

Clearly not supported, if Apple didn't mention it, they didn't add it.

I believe they did say “graphics” but that isn’t enough information. It will likely only support a few specific extremely expensive cards. And obviously no Windows this time.

 

[davidf18]

Rather silly often repeated comment.
Europe taxes higher, but you get more govt services for your money.
US taxes less, but you have to pay yourself for many things (eg. healthcare, et al.).

Which is better is open to political analysis, but the general thought is that US peeps pay a LOT for healthcare but get near instant access to treatment, whereas Europeans pay less but have longer waiting lists, at similar outcome levels. For one example of many.

Healthcare covered by the company we work for or Medicare when 65.

Your gasoline taxes are outrageous as well. Both VAT and gasoline taxes are regressive -- disproportionately harming the low-income people.
But the reason the Apple equipment is so expensive in UK/EU is because of the outrageous 20% VAT, not because of Apple. That's my point.

 

[jimthing]

Healthcare covered by the company we work for or Medicare when 65.

Your gasoline taxes are outrageous as well. Both VAT and gasoline taxes are regressive -- disproportionately harming the low-income people.
But the reason the Apple equipment is so expensive in UK/EU is because of the outrageous 20% VAT, not because of Apple. That's my point.

Sure, US coverage can be extremely good if you have good job, but tens of millions of US citizens don't have any, due to affordability reasons, and extra payments are high in the US even if you have good coverage. Stats show the US system overall costs 3-5 times the average developed European systems (hence the near instant access to treatment in the US), while most of the latter systems cover every citizen, regardless of whether they have top-up systems like Ireland/France or not, like the UK, but waiting times are longer for non-emergency treatment.

Fuel taxes are lower in the US mainly because US people drive much longer distances to commute and general travel due to getting around the shear size of the country, and high need to use vehicles due to public transit constraints. Again, this is why US govt favours low tax and lower prices on fuel, compared to Europe and elsewhere, where cars are seen slightly more of a luxury item, when public transport in urban/suburban areas is established, etc.

Not exactly. Richer people buy more stuff generally and travel more, so pay more VAT into the system overall, and more specifically they buy more stuff where full 20% VAT is applied (as opposed to VAT-free things like groceries and books, or reduced 5% VAT like fuel; although duties on fuel are high).

Obviously it's more expensive due to VAT – although many US people pay (lower rate) sales tax, depending on how/where they buy. But it's also due to tariffs, which are paid on most goods imported from outside tax regions globally both ways; whether that's US company goods made in China into Europe, or European company goods made in Thailand into the US, et al.
Apple prices can sometimes be weird though, as they lowered the 13MBA price by £100 (likely to give the 15MBA a more affordable starting slot), but almost everything else went up again in UK/Europe despite forex rates being stable. Might be tariff increases, distributions cost increases, and/or other factors we as punters would never know (eg's. Studios 100-200 more base prices, AirTags 4pk 120 from 100, etc.). C'est la vie! ;-)

 

[VietKinh]

Ordered 15" Midnight 512/16 to replace my Macbook Pro M1. Seemed to be a better machine for what I do everyday.

Was your the 14" or 16" one?

 

[RoadCyclistID]

Was your the 14" or 16" one?

14"

 

[VietKinh]

14"

Curious if you had the 16" instead, would you still be replacing your MBP for the MBA 15"?

 

[Leon Ze Professional]

Outside of a bigger screen, there is hardly any noticeable upgrade from the M2 MBA.

A six speaker system is another differentiator between the 13 and 15 inch Macbook Air.

 

[icemantx]

I would imagine putting the M2 in the 15" MacBook Air likely means that there will not be an M3 in 2023. Unless maybe they stick it first in the iMac which was still on the M1 (which makes me will the iMac will ever get updated?). 3nm chips are probably all to be used on the iPhone 15 Pro models this year.

 

[nawnp]

I would imagine putting the M2 in the 15" MacBook Air likely means that there will not be an M3 in 2023. Unless maybe they stick it first in the iMac which was still on the M1 (which makes me will the iMac will ever get updated?). 3nm chips are probably all to be used on the iPhone 15 Pro models this year.

Yeah it's weird considering it's never taken Apple a year to release a variant of an existing product, but also the only iMac variant that is available was released more than 2 years ago and the only mainstream Mac not upgraded to M2, so perhaps they're withholding an uofraded model with the Pro and Max series processor sometime soon.

M3 will probably be November to January release given the latest rumours of them prioritizing 3nm for the A17 first. Regardless I hope the new 15" MacBook Air has the update immediately as it's a good option if so.