Apple Stores to Drop Mask Requirement for Vaccinated Customers This Week

[lyngo]

There’s a tough balance with all of this. I, for one, don’t trust that people will honor the “honor system”, but I ethically have a problem with companies, organizations asking for proof of vaccination. No, this isn’t a discussion from my end regarding HIPAA, but if “privacy is a fundamental human right” (Craig F., WWDC 2021 keynote) I have a problem asking ppl if they’re vaccinated. This is a personal and private thing.

I understand Craig’s quote is with regard to the context of data privacy, but I tend to think this also carries over. So, if this remains a private matter and the honor system is a colossal failure, what’s the answer? How does one retain privacy being a human right and not cheating some sort of honor system?

 

[jonnyb098]

Wow..over a year of covid and you still don’t get the difference between this one and the flu.
I feel sorry for all the US-Americans that are being considered as an uneducated and ignorant people worldwide because of individuals like you.
Anyway, good to see most people in the US haven’t lost their common sense.

Hmmmm talk to Canada, still in lockdown. America‘s money and vaccines are about to save the world…as usual.

 

[BobVB]

There’s a tough balance with all of this. I, for one, don’t trust that people will honor the “honor system”, but I ethically have a problem with companies, organizations asking for proof of vaccination. No, this isn’t a discussion from my end regarding HIPAA, but if “privacy is a fundamental human right” (Craig F., WWDC 2021 keynote) I have a problem asking ppl if they’re vaccinated. This is a personal and private thing.

I understand Craig’s quote is with regard to the context of data privacy, but I tend to think this also carries over. So, if this remains a private matter and the honor system is a colossal failure, what’s the answer? How does one retain privacy being a human right and not cheating some sort of honor system?

Don't go to the places that require vaccination proof?

 

[britboyj]

Okay, but can we actually go into the store without making an appointment six hours later just to browse accessories?

 

[lyngo]

Don't go to the places that require vaccination proof?

I will gladly avoid those places. This is under the context of having been fully vaccinated months ago, by the way.

 

[deeddawg]

There's probably not a happy answer to this. Something along the lines of, a few customers will make a big stink if employees aren't masked.

Bingo.

and guess what her name is….

 

[planteater]

I think the transparency of the mask allows me to see their face. That's what I like about fabric masks. They block the view.

Sick. Go back to your iPhone so you don't have to deal with people.

 

[jonnyb098]

I will gladly avoid those places. This is under the context of having been fully vaccinated months ago, by the way.

Yep. Let the free market do its thing. The places that require proof will learn fast they will go out of business. And I’m fine with that. (HINT: that’s why most places don’t require proof)

 

[BobVB]

I will gladly avoid those places. This is under the context of having been fully vaccinated months ago, by the way.

Then win win. The places that can and should require it are those that are the antithesis of COVID protection measures:
People tend to linger
People tend to socialize
People tend to want to become 'less rational' i.e. intoxicants.

I doubt the local Krogers will ever require vaccination but I'm very glad my local bar does.

 

[BobVB]

Yep. Let the free market do its thing. The places that require proof will learn fast they will go out of business. And I’m fine with that. (HINT: that’s why most places don’t require proof)

My local bar that is requiring proof of vaccination is packed.

 

[deeddawg]

Latest news is that 7 months after COVID hospitalisation 5% are developing signs of type 2 Diabetes. COVID may affect the insulin producing cells in the pancreas.

What percentage of non-COVID people with the same other age/weight/diet characteristics develop signs of type 2 diabetes?

i.e. what’s the delta between the figure you read and the normal exisiting rate within the same/equivalent population?

 

[Silverstring]

Breaking news: heavily populated countries get more cases and deaths of a highly transmissible virus. News at 11.

Breaking News Correction: The poster did not name their country, so you have no idea if it is highly or sparsely populated or what the per capita rate is, so your intended “gotcha” response means exactly nothing.

Tomorrow’s Headline:

Math Literacy Drops to New Lows—Denominators are Important

 

[BobVB]

What percentage of non-COVID people with the same other age/weight/diet characteristics develop signs of type 2 diabetes?

i.e. what’s the delta between the figure you read and the normal exisiting rate within the same/equivalent population?

Information is still evolving:

"
Peter Jackson, a biochemist at the Stanford University School of Medicine, estimates “as many as 30 percent of patients with severe COVID-19 may develop diabetes.”

Can COVID-19 lead to diabetes? Here’s what you need to know

New studies show that the COVID-19 virus can attack the pancreas, destroy cells that make insulin, and cause some cases of diabetes.

www.nationalgeographic.com

 

[russell_314]

My local bar that is requiring proof of vaccination is packed.

Texas has fixed this problem. It’s illegal for a private business to ask for your vaccination record.

 

[jarman92]

If a business asked me for a card I’ll walk out and so will millions of Americans which is why business won’t even tread on that water.

Or we can have segregation all over again……

That’s fine, you’re obviously able to do that. But it has absolutely nothing to do with HIPAA.

 

[jarman92]

Ah no rebuttal so he insults. Guess what, name calling is bannable offense on Macrumors. Reported. Enjoy that bud.

As is, I would imagine, facilitation and encouragement of a federal crime.

 

[jarman92]

Texas has fixed this problem. It’s illegal for a private business to ask for your vaccination record.

Sure, if you never go to any other state or country for the foreseeable future.

 

[BobVB]

Texas has fixed this problem. It’s illegal for a private business to ask for your vaccination record.

Who in their right mind would go to Texas?

 

[russell_314]

Who in their right mind would go to Texas?

Apparently lots of people from California and New York. People are getting tired of the high cost of living and taxes there.

 

[zorinlynx]

One thing that has me so freaking tired lately is how the pandemic has brought so much conflict that needn't be there.

The whole mask thing is insane. I'm tired of it. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't wear one. Just stop trying to tell others what to do. I can't wait until the FAA stops requiring them on flights; I feel bad for the poor flight attendants that have to constantly be policing it on every flight.

I can't wait until this whole mess is completely over so we can start arguing about something else.

 

[russell_314]

Sure, if you never go to any other state or country for the foreseeable future.

True when you travel you have to go buy whatever country or state local laws. The vast majority of people don’t travel outside their home state on a regular basis.

 

[H.E. Pennypacker]

Well the store employees will be safe, hope everyone else uses common sense.

Do you still think masks protect the person wearing them? Masks protect people from spreading not getting. Unless you’ve been properly fit tested for an N95. Cmon bro, We are 1 year into this already.

 

[BobVB]

One thing that has me so freaking tired lately is how the pandemic has brought so much conflict that needn't be there.

The whole mask thing is insane. I'm tired of it. If you want to wear a mask, wear a mask. If you don't, don't wear one. Just stop trying to tell others what to do.

I can't wait until this whole mess is completely over so we can start arguing about something else.

The problem was and is you aren't wearing a cloth mask for yourself, you are wearing them for others, so trying to make it a personal choice issues is a false one. Its about caring enough about others to wear one, and let's face it empathy isn't a core American value.

 

[lyngo]

Who in their right mind would go to Texas?

The same folks leaving NY to go to Florida. New York population is dropping like a lead balloon.

 

[satchmo]

I’m surprised much of the United States believes this pandemic is over. The Delta variant has arrived and will soon be the dominant strain.