Apple Stores to Drop Mask Requirement for Vaccinated Customers This Week

[Realityck]

As has been demonstrated many times, though, masks are to protect others, not yourself. If Apple was more concerned about employees than customers, and worried about not knowing customers' vaccination status, then they would mandate masks for all customers, and vaccinated employees wouldn't need masks, right? Seems backwards to me.

I think the odds of known employees status and keeping them healthy outweighs consumer honor system. The essential workers have had to deal with this the whole time, so eventually when it’s less of a risk they will change policy.

 

[barkomatic]

I live in California and everyone here wear a mask in businesses. I will be interested to see what happens come June 15 when vaccinated people are allowed to not wear a mask in the state indoors.

Nothing will happen and you’ll be fine. I live in NYC which is the densest place in the country and the bars have been packed with people mingling without masks. It’ll seem weird at first but you’ll get used to it.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Science is real.

I wasn't aware that anyone was saying it was fake. However, there is inherent danger in treating anything with the word "science" slapped on it like cold hard fact. Science is a process, not a rulebook. We use science to test our ideas about the world. With testing, hypotheses and theories can change, be refined, or be rejected completely.

A pet peeve of mine is when people say "follow the science" or "science says." Science doesn't say. Scientists say. Scientists are humans, and are fallible. What people mean when they usually say "science" is not actually science: it's the potentially errant conclusions made based on scientific research and testing. Conclusions that can change with time. Science is a process, not an answer.

Science isn't real in the sense that it's a solution to everything. Science provides solutions, and often they're inaccurate and improved on over time. Don't assume something is true and will be for all time because it's "science." Weigh it against previous knowledge and information and know that the conclusions made with the scientific method may very well change as new data is gathered and tested.

 

[Feyl]

I have to say it.. there's no pandemic. Just look at the Fauci's e-mails if you don't believe me or you don't want to believe because you're scared to death. There's no need to wear a mask in public, unless you feel bad. In that case you should stay home anyway as you probably should've when the world was relatively normal. We didn't wear masks during flu epidemics, there's no reason to do it now. Just protect the older people and those who are more vulnerable. Unless of course, you want dead economics and desperate people. The world can't do this forever.

 

[btrach144]

If people want to wear masks 10 years from now, let them.

 

[the future]

Apple (and every other business) should absolutely ask mask-less customers for verification of vaccination, though. Just too many dumb/selfish jerks out there.

 

[A MacBook lover]

This makes zero sense. Vaccinated can still spread the virus.

and why do vaccinated staff need to wear one?
Double standards, braindead logic.

I however, am enjoying not being vaccinated. And I never will be vaccinated. I eat quality pasture raised grass fed meats and organic fruits an veggies daily, and I haven’t been sick in years. Sorry folks, deal with it.

 

[npmacuser5]

My results, no colds, flu, COVID, for over a year. Learned how to better manage my interactions with a growing society regarding the transmission of diseases. The mask, washing of hands, using sanitizers, keep better social distancing, no need to change going forward. Lesson learned.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

This makes zero sense. Vaccinated can still spread the virus.

Do you have any sources to back up that claim?

 

[dannyyankou]

Because store management wants to protect their employees, they know the status of employees, but using the honor system for shoppers, hey it’s the grand experiment of post-COVID store operations.

They would be coming into contact with maskless customers anyway, so I don’t see how this is “protecting” their employees. And employees can just choose to continue wearing a mask if they choose.

 

[A MacBook lover]

They would be coming into contact with maskless customers anyway, so I don’t see how this is “protecting” their employees. And employees can just choose to continue wearing a mask if they choose.

Don’t even bother to apply logic to any parts of this whole situation, because there is none.

 

[A MacBook lover]

Do you have any sources to back up that claim?

Are you suggesting vaccinated people can’t get sick and die from COVID 19? Do you have any sources to back up that claim?https://bangordailynews.com/2021/06...-covid-19-vaccines-still-prevent-more-deaths/

 

[dogslobber]

The mask does not protect you. It protects others from you. If everyone wore masks correctly for a few months this would have ended a long time ago. Science is real.

Say what? Of course it protects you from others or nobody would need masks at all due to them being ineffectual.

 

[dannyyankou]

Because when you go to the Apple store you pass near 20 people but if you work at the Apple store you pass near 600 people all day.

Not really comparable at all.

But they’d be passing 600 vaccinated people, assuming they’re being honest about being vaccinated. I guess it varies from location to location, but people have been complying very strongly where I live. Mask compliance was near 100% before the mandate was lifted, and 75% of the adult population is now vaccinated.

 

[now i see it]

A vaccination passport is the inevitable next step because the honor system won't work and the stigma of choosing not to be vaccinated will create problems.

And at any rate, a vaccinated person can still be a carrier and spread the viri though they exhibit no symptoms.

Can people vaccinated against COVID-19 still spread the coronavirus?

The COVID-19 vaccines are a smash success. But that doesn't mean they keep every vaccinated person completely free of the coronavirus.

www.pbs.org

 

[Realityck]

Do you have any sources to back up that claim?

Double vaccinations prevent 95% to 99% of you getting it, its still possible depending on your immune system. Usually if you do get it’s asymptomatic which means you can spread it to those with limited or no immunity. That cruise ship with one example even though they took preventive steps for passengers with tests.

 

[A MacBook lover]

Say what? Of course it protects you from others or nobody would need masks at all due to them being ineffectual.

Then why would apple stop requiring masks from the hundreds of customers ?? 😂

 

[no_idea]

This will work very well for liars that pretending to be vaccinated.

They are bearing the risk at that point. If they catch Covid, it’s their own fault

 

[raybo]

Do you have any sources to back up that claim?

I know people who got the disease after the shots, so presumably they can spread it. Take your D/Zinc/NAC/Quercetin/K2/C daily and get outside!

 

[no_idea]

This will be deleted again, but I have to say it.. there's no pandemic. Just look at the Fauci's e-mails if you don't believe me or you don't want to believe because you're scared to death. There's no need to wear a mask in public, unless you feel bad. In that case you should stay home anyway as you probably should've when the world was relatively normal. We didn't wear masks during flu epidemics, there's no reason to do it now. Just protect the older people and those who are more vulnerable. Unless of course, you want dead economics and desperate people. The world can't do this forever.

Lol…explain that to the 600k that lost their lives in the US

 

[dannyyankou]

Are you suggesting vaccinated people can’t get sick and die from COVID 19? Do you have any sources to back up that claim?https://bangordailynews.com/2021/06...-covid-19-vaccines-still-prevent-more-deaths/

As with any disease, no vaccine is 100%. A handful of people still die from Polio every year.

But here’s what we do know-

- As of June 7, 2021, more than 139 million people in the United States had been fully vaccinated against COVID-19.

- Since the beginning of the year, there have only been 3,275 hospitalizations from breakthrough infections among 139 million vaccinated people

- Out of those 139 million people, there have been, and I hesitate to say “only”, 603 deaths. Compare this to the number of deaths among unvaccinated.

 

[A MacBook lover]

They are bearing the risk at that point. If they catch Covid, it’s their own fault

True. But not getting the flu vaccine ever in my life, I never got the flu.

The one time I had a flu vaccine it gave me the flu.

also, I never try anything in the medical market that hasn’t been thoroughly tested for at least 5+ years, this includes prescriptions.

 

[The Cappy]

If people are vaccinated, why should they need to wear masks? How does that make it less of a "safe environment?" If you "follow the SCIENCE" like so many people preach, then it becomes pretty obvious that wearing a mask after being vaccinated is like wearing water wings in the rain: there's no point.

I guess you have to put "follow the science" in quote because to you it's a slogan with no meaning. Most people who wave that banner (on either side of the political aisle) turn out to have no idea what the actual science is.

COVID vaccination doesn't 100% prevent you from getting infected by COVID. What it appears to do is protect you from getting a serious infection. Which means that you might still be able to be contagious even after you've gotten vaccinated. This is why even after I got my second vaccination in early January, I needed to continue wearing a mask: not because the mask protects me, but because the mask protects you.

There's also a form of social pressure, to be sure, trying to remind people with limited personal responsibility to do the responsible thing.

 

[Mr. Awesome]

Are you suggesting vaccinated people can’t get sick and die from COVID 19? Do you have any sources to back up that claim?https://bangordailynews.com/2021/06...-covid-19-vaccines-still-prevent-more-deaths/

No. But the likelihood of dying from COVID once vaccinated (depending on your age group, of course) is extremely small.

 

[A MacBook lover]

No. But the likelihood of dying from COVID once vaccinated (depending on your age group, of course) is extremely small.

The likelyhood of me dying from COVID19, unvaccinated, is extremely small.

except the unvaccinated guy only needs to worry about COVID19. Vaccinated people also have to worry about catching it, as well as vaccine side effects. Both very small, but that’s two gambles instead of one.