Well that’s fine for you, but you’re in a tiny minority and you’re not being reasonable. Most of us want to get back to our lives, not live cowering in fear of a disease rendered mildly annoying by vaccinations.
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Well that’s fine for you, but you’re in a tiny minority and you’re not being reasonable. Most of us want to get back to our lives, not live cowering in fear of a disease rendered mildly annoying by vaccinations.
They are dropping mask requirement for vaccinated customers.
"employees have been told that they won’t be required to ask customers for verification of vaccination"
Which they won't know if they have been vaccinated because they won't be required to ask. Absolutely ridiculous.
Whats the big deal with asking someone to prove if they have been vaccinated, and don't give me all this privacy BS.
"employees have been told that they won’t be required to ask customers for verification of vaccination"
Which they won't know if they have been vaccinated because they won't be required to ask. Absolutely ridiculous.
Whats the big deal with asking someone to prove if they have been vaccinated, and don't give me all this privacy BS.
The vaccination share of the US population (barely 43.6% fully vaxed) is alarmingly low for a full open up, covid hospitalizations rates are on a historic low across North America (Mexico & Canada too) not because vaccination but more probably due to seasonal reasons. Mexico's fully vaxed share is 11.7%, Canada's is 11.5%, both countries in historic lows as well. Chile has a higher vaccinated rate than the US, and they had just started a new full lockdown due to hospital saturation.
An honor system doesn't work on a divided and heavily politicized topic like vaccinations. Is like asking someone wether they plan to take the flight down before boarding, they'll answer accordingly. And it puts all the friction of enforcing people's behaviour on clerks and service workers.
Flight attendants have been screamed at and punched to the face on flights day in / day out this year. The CDC made a mistake by allowing vaccinated people to stop wearing masks, not until the 70% threshold IMO. A pandemic, like everything in life, doesn't work on a Me vision of the world. The very air we breath is not ours but the planet's.
An honor system doesn't work on a divided and heavily politicized topic like vaccinations. Is like asking someone wether they plan to take the flight down before boarding, they'll answer accordingly. And it puts all the friction of enforcing people's behaviour on clerks and service workers.
Flight attendants have been screamed at and punched to the face on flights day in / day out this year. The CDC made a mistake by allowing vaccinated people to stop wearing masks, not until the 70% threshold IMO. A pandemic, like everything in life, doesn't work on a Me vision of the world. The very air we breath is not ours but the planet's.
did n't everyone condone Texas in April for opening business waaaaaay ahead of CCN or gayle king allowing this?
they are fine.
they are fine.
With you. Wife and I are fully vaccinated, but our kid is too young. So we continue to wear masks for him. Even if it means we are literally the only people wearing them.
There are many complications. Lack of privacy is one of them, yes. Another is that this effectively enforces a mandate for a specific subset of the population. It's discriminatory.
I understand the reasoning behind asking for proof of vaccination, and it theoretically contributes to the health of the collective nation. But if a precedent is set here, who's to say it can't be set for other things? "You must wear a mask if you haven't been vaccinated." "You must wear an identifying pin if you are a Jew." The similarity is more than enough to make me take a second glance.
If vaccine passports are allowed, then the unvaccinated are prevented from normal activities. Not vaccinated? Sorry, you can't get on the plane. Vaccinated? Go right ahead!
This type of discrimination makes being a united people even harder. If you aren't vaccinated, people can restrict you from certain services or opportunities as they see fit.
Out of curiosity, does anyone know the two following stats:
- Death rate of vaccinated people who die from contracting Covid from someone else?
- Death rate of people who die in a car accident?
- Death rate of vaccinated people who die from contracting Covid from someone else?
- Death rate of people who die in a car accident?
Good unless you can prove a valid medical reason for not getting vaccinated, and lettign GOD deal with it like some peopel I know is not good enough
The likelyhood of „the unvaccinated guy“ of facing serious Covid19 issues is way higher than that of vaccinated people, making the actually incredibly small risk of vaccine side effects completely negligible. Also, „the unvaccinated guy“ is putting other people at a higher risk of catching the virus in the first place. Every „unvaccinated guy“ (and woman) just needlessly prolongs the process of getting back to normal.
There will not be more “full surges” in the US. There far too many vaccinated people to see anything like what we’ve seen before.
Please post the Fauci email that says there’s no pandemic. I’ll wait.
Versatile coronavirus antibody may be starting point for broader-acting vaccines
A special type of antibody is produced in patients who've had COVID-19 as well as less-serious coronaviruses that cause colds
Date:May 27, 2021
Source:Scripps Research Institute
Summary:Scientists investigated how the immune system's previous exposure to cold-causing coronaviruses impact immune response to COVID-19. In doing so, they discovered one cross-reactive coronavirus antibody that's triggered during a COVID-19 infection. Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, most people in the United States already had been sick with a coronavirus, albeit a far less dangerous one. That's because at least four coronaviruses in the same general family as SARS-CoV-2 cause the benign yet annoying illness known as the common cold.
"By examining blood samples collected before the pandemic and comparing those with samples from people who had been sick with COVID-19, we were able to pinpoint antibody types that cross reacted with benign coronaviruses as well as SARS-CoV-2," says Andrabi, who works closely with the laboratory of professor Dennis Burton, PhD.
A special type of antibody is produced in patients who've had COVID-19 as well as less-serious coronaviruses that cause colds
Date:May 27, 2021
Source:Scripps Research Institute
Summary:Scientists investigated how the immune system's previous exposure to cold-causing coronaviruses impact immune response to COVID-19. In doing so, they discovered one cross-reactive coronavirus antibody that's triggered during a COVID-19 infection. Even before the COVID-19 pandemic, most people in the United States already had been sick with a coronavirus, albeit a far less dangerous one. That's because at least four coronaviruses in the same general family as SARS-CoV-2 cause the benign yet annoying illness known as the common cold.
"By examining blood samples collected before the pandemic and comparing those with samples from people who had been sick with COVID-19, we were able to pinpoint antibody types that cross reacted with benign coronaviruses as well as SARS-CoV-2," says Andrabi, who works closely with the laboratory of professor Dennis Burton, PhD.
And how that happened? I'm not an american but in my country we don't treat Covid people. We're just waiting for them to get really sick at home and then take them to hospital when in lots of cases it's already too late. After a year we know well how to treat Covid. Why don't we treat people? Why we keep sending them to hospitals? Also, here's an example from my country form the past. We have over 30K "Covid" deaths. During 1994 and 1995 we had a regular flu epidemic that cost 13-15K lifes. Why that wasn't a subject of global hysteria a call for massive vaccination? Hm? Also, do you know how many deaths each year globally are caused by a regular flu? Why nobody cares about so much deaths? Is Covid more imporatnt than any other disease?
I'm 28 years old and I once had flu that made me feel like I was literally dying. I never experienced anything like that before and my doctor basically told me why do I bother them with this, there's no pill for it, so I have to sleep it off. I had health problems for like 2 months after it. Why would my case would be now considered so important? Hell, I'd even could feel great while tested possitive and they would treat me like a national threat. Why don't you see this bs?
This whole thing has been a joke from day one. It was never about safety, it was about control What? Suddenly it's not ok to not wear masks (which never protected you in the first place) now that Big Gummint says so?
You are free not to get vaccinated. A business should be free to not serve you if you‘re unvaccinated because you put employees and other customers at risk. If there is a large enough number of unvaccinated people, it will take a longer time for „normal activities“ to actually be normal again. Interesting how „a united people“ is only ever of concern for conservatives if there is something they need to do / stop doing. The holocaust comparison is beyond ridiculous and quite disgusting.
Really? Those who are vaccinated will be protected. Those who chose not to get vaccinated do so at their own risk. Why does it make any difference whether or not you wear a mask now if everyone who wants to get the vaccine has now gotten it?
It would probably do him some good if he visited Mar-a-Lago.
Would there even be a “flu season“ if everyone wore masks during that time of year?
This is true to a point, the masks do help a bit but the Governemnt likes control. I do find it funny the same people taht screamed follow the science suddenly don't want to follow the science. Also i have just discovered that people that love masks do not like sports, hardly anyone wears them
It really boggles the mind that 18 months later there are still people who don‘t understand the difference between Covid and the flu.
This kind of ignorance was understandable a year ago, but now it’s indefensible. I don’t know what country you’re in, but in the US, the flu kills between 12k and 60k per year (since 2010). Yes that’s a big range but let’s say it’s the top, 60,000. Ok, so that’s like 1/8th the covid deaths in 2020 and that’s with no meaningful mitigation of the flu and massive, global mitigation efforts for covid.
bottom line: yes the flu kills but our health system is ready for it, and it kills at a relatively low rate. Covid is an order of magnitude more deadly and has the ability to overwhelm our entire healthcare system. That’s why we treat them differently. This honestly isn’t complicated.
I didn't argue about what good vaccine passporting would do. It would help keep people healthy. I do worry about what other groups could be discriminated against once this precedent is set, as I expressed in my previous post.
I am not truly free to not get vaccinated. If I don't, I am unable to do many things that vaccinated people can. I can't get a flight. I can't enter a government building. I have less freedom than a vaccinated person.