If you’re looking for problems, anyone making any conclusions or proclamations about the field of experimental microbiology is fundamentally stupid.
This includes everyone worried about adverse reactions to treatment, AND everyone worried about getting COVID-19.
The viral ID methods, and even the research equipment are “experimental”. None of this is hard science, there’s a huge margin of error in any viral ID.
The mask people listened to the advice of epidemiologists about a field they aren’t even involved in, and that’s highly contested and theoretical on its own. That’s a 100% clown move. They heard thunder and ran for a priest, instead of a meteorologist.
Well, remember that with global warming, we started to revere the meteorologist as nearly a deity unto his or her own greatness and all-knowingness. This is why people believe global warming claims from a group that can't even tell me if it's going to rain this afternoon.
The sociology studies of all this should be pretty interesting, many of the political left who have doggedly ridiculed the religious right, behaved the exact same way, turning to irrational fear and superstition at the mere mention of the unknown. The only difference is with the right, they wear their magic panties underneath the clothing.
omg, that's hilarious and I don't know why!
If anyone ever made a derisive comment to me about wearing a mask there would be a confrontation. Just because I’m willing to wear a mask doesn’t make me a pacifist.
No it doesn't, and you would be welcome at my house, as long as you unmasked long enough for initial identification for all the security cameras. Don't worry, my cameras are fast and you won't be crowded by any covid-positive people when you temporarily unmask.
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He was right - learn the science. A vaccine is designed to prevent you from catching the disease caused by the virus. The vaccine arms your body with the antibodies in advance so when that one little virus strand shows up in your body and tries to attach its receptor to your cells it finds itself muzzled with an antibody that fits like a glove over the receptor and makes it incapable of infecting your cells. Even if the virus gets a few cells and reproduces in tiny quantities dodging the antibodies at first your body will have antibodies in your blood stream to prevent further infection or virus reproduction leaving the virus to die in your blood and get filtered by your kidneys.
hence you don’t get the disease and are never infectious. Folks with weaker immune systems may find that their body stops producing the antibodies and when the virus shows up those people’s immune system then kick in and “remember” which antibody to create and though they do get sick it is never that bad since their body’s reaction is much faster than somebody who was never exposed. BUT this is not how vaccine’s are made to work. They are not made to make it so you are less sick, but a byproduct of when somebody’s immune system is more lax is that vaccine has already trained the immune system on what to do. This is when they record a “failure” of the vaccine to work (efficacy rate measures how often it succeeds)
So in summary, vaccines work by preventing infection. When vaccines are not effective they still provide the backup/fallback of making it so you don’t get very sick from the virus.
Pfizer and Moderna vaccines are both over 90% effective. So 9 out of 10 vaccinated with those will NEVER get infected. Never catch COVID-19 disease from the virus. The 1 out of 10 who can still get sick if exposed to will have a mild case of COVID-19. If enough people get vaccinated then we get herd immunity. And the virus finds it has to do the equivalent of winning the lottery to spread within a population with herd immunity.
Thank you BC2009!
Ladies and Gentlemen:
THIS is what I learned in high school in the 1970s, later confirmed in my basic college biology required coursework in the early 1980s. I ended up going into IT, but I still paid attention in biology! Seriously, were some of you asleep or texting during school, and now just making things up because you don't really know how biology works? Or weren't you taught these things in your government school in the first place? Asking for a friend...
Then you are willing to present an electronic vaccination "passport" as proof when asked at a store/facility?
Maybe, if I don't have to give my name. After all, an ApplePay purchase doesn't give my name or credit card # to that same retailer, but it can STILL authorize payment. So let's do something like THAT, alright?
Thanks for the “dramatic” language. The simple truth it is a private company and private property. Don’t like the rules, don’t enter. But also all the tards and no vaxers will just come in without a mask anyway spreading pandemic Willy nilly. Now if they just exposed themselves and were the only ones to die and didn’t use insurance benefits and hospital space -who cares, but that is not the case, sadly
so if anyone chooses to still wear a mask and any company chooses to continue to provide safety. Good for them. It’s called freedom.
You kind of had me in your first sentence, but your enflaming use of "tards" and "no vaxers" lost me all over again.
"Can't we all just get along?" - Rodney King
no it's not and stop spreading misinformation.
He's re-iterating the high school biology you skipped or were sleeping through.
This will likely cause some kerfuffles/scuffles in stores.
Maybe it's time we had some kerfuffles. People should note, however; that if they're gonna dance the kerfuffle dance with an unwilling partner, then they need to be mentally, emotionally, and spiritually prepared to dance to the unwilling partner's music.
Put another way: "No means no"
Which is why surgeons wear masks when the OR and have done so for generations. Would you really want one to go without masks when they take you into the OR.
Personally, I'm fighting the 5th cancer and will be wearing masks when ever I go to a store, It's not rocket science. Patients going to Chemo all wear a mask, as do the medical professional personnel working in the chemo rooms.
In your case, you should continue to do what your doctors tell you to do. None of this discussion is meant to imply or state that you should disobey the advice of your medical experts.
There is also the problem with the annual flu issues. Last year has been very mild because people were wearing masks, but 61000 died in '17 - '18, and over 800,000 were hospitalized. Masks are going to be attractive to older folks as well as all people who are fragile - and their families.
I don't think anybody can say with certainty that lower flu rates were due to mask-wearing, yet you've made that assumption.
Maybe the fact that I spent all last summer working only in my home office, garden, and kitchen was more causal than any mask-wearing I might have done in my, what, bi-weekly visits to the pharmacy, grocery store, or ... hmmm, grocery store?
I went to Japan a few years ago for work. I was impressed that at the airport they take your temperature and give you a free mask right as soon as you get off the plane (if you're sick).
Imo that's doing something right. Here, we have our sick leave rolled up in PTO so no one takes sick leave - and gets the whole office sick over and over.
Not every place. My company offers up to 40 hours of sick leave. It gets re-stocked to 40 hours every January 1st. After that, a person could elect to burn vacation time or apply for medical leave.
The point of getting a vaccine is to protect yourself and eventually protect others once herd immunity is achieved. The point of wearing a mask is to protect others until herd immunity is achieved.
But I don't think it does protect others. I've never SEEN so much face-and-mask-touching going on since the masks!
A million years from now, a future civilization will be contemplating the demise of our civilization, and they'll learn that we poisoned ourselves with our own masks, not unlike some ancient civilizations who made their utensils and drinking vessels from lead or other heavy metals. Yum yum!
I have my CDC card. Just curious, when should we stop wearing masks? or do you want everyone to live in fear the rest of their lives and wear masks and hazmat suits?
Those are not the only two options. But I share your frustration!
They did, they specifically stated those who were fully vaccinated. They did not state “liars” in any guideline whatsoever
This is a good point to note.
Unfortunately you are wrong and I really hope no one gets sick or worse because of your carelessness.
Again, he was giving you that high school biology lecture that you zoned out on because you were texting your friends. Or sleeping.
The amount of correct information one has regarding COVID seems to be inversely proportional to the amount of posts they make about COVID.
People: Get the vaccine. Keep wearing masks as requested. It's not hard. We're almost through, thankfully because as dumb as we are we are the richest nation. Look, New Zealand gave you Lord Of The Rings the movies. You like New Zealand. Be like New Zealand.
LOL, point taken!
But our patience will wear thin. Remember, I can walk out of an office in NYC and get a sausage with onions and peppers RIGHT THERE ON THE STREET within 5 minutes or less.
Oh wait, that was before we killed New York City.
Again, it's not that kind of choice.
you should stop wearing masks when about 75% of your population is vaccinated.
the best thing you can do to have things go back to normal is to try to convince anyone you know that doesn’t want to get vaccinated for whatever reason to do so
Now THIS I can agree with.
No it does not educate yourself. The vaccine will not protect you from getting the virus.
Wow, is the whole world anti-high school biology?
Perhaps people who can’t be bothered to wear a mask or get a vaccine should opt to stay home?
Thank you for conflating the language. I'm anti-mask, but that's not the same as "can't be bothered to wear a mask". I wear a mask if legally required to do so. I will also wear a mask if requested by a business, at least I will for several more weeks and maybe even a month or two. But my patience has a limit, and I'm all out of patience for government wonks and people named Dr. Fauci.
There are millions like me, who express disagreement, but are constantly being gaslit to mean that we "can't be bothered to wear a mask". This is unfair and it feels like you don't appreciate the efforts that I/we already HAVE gone to in order to accommodate unreasonable diktats.
Misuse of the language is insulting and quite frankly, it's tearing us apart, so please stop it!
Private businesses can require you to do what they want. Don't like wearing a mask inside a Costco? Solution is simple. Don't shop there. Your rights are not being infringed upon.
You're right about all this, of course. But why does it feel that you're beating people over the head with it?
Yeah, preach brother! Why does the government force me to wear pants or underwear when I go outside my house? It’s ridiculous! I should be able to go anywhere in America I want to without any pants on, whether that’s a crowded grocery store, an elementary school, or even the library! It’s a free country and this is oppression!!!
I declare this week to be "No Pants for People Named "uller6" week"! You should definitely pick your biggest errand day and do ALL of your errands sans pants. Make up a nice name tag too, because if everybody knows your name, then they won't arrest you for breaking the law. Probably.
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I’m a pharmacist at a children’s hospital. We normally dispense tamiflu all the time. All winter. Every year. Tons of Tamiflu. This year? I haven’t dispensed a single course of therapy. I realize my story is just anecdotal, but still.
I read somewhere that our masks and distancing really helped the flu be an non issue this year. Would be great if that happened every year.
I think it was the distancing. No evidence that the masks have any effect if everybody's in their own room attending work or school on zoom anyway, right?
