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No, it's because people are spoiled and want stuff for free, and immediately. And they also expect good content.
You can watch all the shows you want for less than $20/month.
You really can't...unless you mean paying for a VPN service to pirate. I agree people want free ****, but the way you cut down on piracy is making it accesible for a resonable price..ala Apple Music/Spotify etc. If Apple or another vendor could offer a $30-40 month package with every show/movie on the market, people would sign up.
 
Digital theft as concerning media copied for personal consumption is not comparable to stealing, despite any coherent intellectual-property argument that can be made.

The original vision of the internet was that 1’s and 0’s would be able to be shared between humans without inhibition or limitations. Somehow we allowed capitalism to fragment this system and well, thus this article..

Long live torrents and may they become further decentralized and untraceable.
So, you want productions like Game of Thrones, but expect the producers to give them away for free because... it's the net?
 
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I agree, Apple TV+ has nothing of interest to me as a guy in his 20's. It all looks so bland, corporate, paint by numbers, better not offend type shows.
You nailed it. It looks like Apple threw a ton of money at producers and asked them to not be too controversial. It’s why all new Tom Hanks movies are going there.
 
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You really can't...unless you mean paying for a VPN service to pirate. I agree people want free ****, but the way you cut down on piracy is making it accesible for a resonable price..ala Apple Music/Spotify etc.
What do you mean you can't? I do it.

If Apple or another vendor could offer a $30-40 month package with every show/movie on the market, people would sign up.

It would cost much more than $30. Producing shows and movies is freaking expensive.
 
Exclusives and region-locked content are some of the primary reasons up to this day piracy is still a thing...

I used to have Apple Music thinking that the region-locked content on Spotify would be easily accessible here, but I was wrong... Yes Japanese music is available on multiple streaming services but there are still some songs that you can only access if your account is set to Japan/your IP address is from Japan...

Netflix has multiple anime shows/Japanese shows [I don't use Apple TV+] but there are still some shows that can only be accessed if your account is using a Japanese IP address... I found this out when I tried Netflix while connected to Japan using a VPN service...

Once you stopped paying for the subscription, all the downloaded content, whether music, movies, or TV shows, they will be inaccessible and will be online-only [like in Spotify] and as we all know, even the most developed countries do not have stable internet access everywhere... So what do you do? Search for the music/content you want and download it for unlimited access...
 
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Give me a break. I'm so sick of this stupid argument.

You can subscribe to a half-dozen of these services before it costs more than cable TV used to. And to top it off none of them have time-based contracts like in the old days. You can pop in and out of them anytime you like. Subscribe to 3 at a time and rotate through them and pocket the cash you're saving over cable TV.

In short, the industry gave us exactly what we all wanted and yet people still complain about being "forced" to pirate because they just can't deal with this incredible utopia.

I'm so over with listening to people who think having amazing choices is a terrible thing.
Oh yeah amazing choice of having to pay $150/mo just to watch some shows they like or they want, binge watching or whatever.

Industry did An amazing job of introducing Netflix, and then they want their own pie out of greediness, as if everyone should pay $10k per cinema ticket and $5k/day for streaming.
You can watch all the shows you want for less than $20/month.
“All”, lol.
And less than $20…
You are kidding.
 
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Seriously? You’re trying to argue that nobody should have ever thought of using the internet for profit? Lol
Use the internet for whatever pleases you, but don’t limit the 1’s & 0’s others are sharing amongst themselves if it a) isn’t harming anyone b) isn’t directly causing harm to society
 
I’m sure Apple doesn’t care right now. It is pretty clear they have a smaller library that makes it harder for people to feel OK with the price of the service so they likely are fine with this to help build an audience for their content as the library grows.

Apple is already giving Apple TV+ away for free in the majority of cases anyway.
 
Dear Apple,

“you mess with the bull, you gotta deal with the horns”
- Skipper, Penguins of Madagascar
 
It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)
This is why I still pirate. In Canada it’s even worse because of weird geolocking deals. Some content is not available online because the studio doesn’t have a deal to distribute here. The only way to get it digitally is to pirate.

I’ll also pirate a show if the service is acting spotty that day just so I can see it in full 4K without a reduction in quality.
 
So, you want productions like Game of Thrones, but expect the producers to give them away for free because... it's the net?
No. Everything they have set up to distribute and profit from their work is valid. Separately and of higher significance though is humans being able to share bits of information digitally without any inhibition so long as that information does not do harm to others or society.
 
The true % of viewership that is derived from torrents vs paid subscription is not even comparable. Not to mention many people torrent content simply because it’s there and being seeded. Many who torrent content regularly would not otherwise pay for a subscription to view the content, like myself they torrent the content because it’s available and trending. Meaning that one cannot so easily consider it lost revenue, because many of those who downloaded would have simply gone without had a torrent not been available, and not become paying subscribers to any service.

I vowed years ago never to give another dollar to Netflix because of various stances the company has taken over the years on political issues. However not through lack of resources but out of principle alone did I recently seek the series ‘Squid Game’ through torrents rather than give a host company like Netflix a single dollar.

Torrenting has been and remains a sort of middle finger to the “Digital Corporatocracy” that want their real-world monopolies extended to the online world and do their best to limit our ability to freely share 1’s and 0’s with each other, unless it goes through their digital middle-men so that they can collect their fee.

Digital theft as concerning media copied for personal consumption is not comparable to stealing, despite any coherent intellectual-property argument that can be made.

The original vision of the internet was that 1’s and 0’s would be able to be shared between humans without inhibition or limitations. Somehow we allowed capitalism to fragment this system and well, thus this article..

Long live torrents and may they become further decentralized and untraceable.
You may be the most entitled person I've ever read a rant from.
 
Use the internet for whatever pleases you, but don’t limit the 1’s & 0’s others are sharing amongst themselves if it a) isn’t harming anyone b) isn’t directly causing harm to society
So in your opinion not paying the people that produced expensive stuff is not harming anyone? Really?
 
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Exclusives and region-locked content are some of the primary reasons up to this day piracy is still a thing...
Exactly.
Once you stopped paying for the subscription, all the downloaded content, whether music, movies, or TV shows, they will be inaccessible and will be online-only [like in Spotify] and as we all know, even the most developed countries do not have stable internet access everywhere... So what do you do? Search for the music/content you want and download it for unlimited access...
Yup. But it seems that people who enjoys subscribing contents automatically ignores this huge drawback, prolly because they don’t see $5/mo as something they should worry about. People also choose to not figure out the difference of “ongoing cost” vs “perpetual”. It’s just sad really.

Offline-mode often doesn’t work either cause apps still phoning home checking license. Once they can’t, all downloaded contents cannot be played anymore and must be deleted.
 
What do you mean you can't? I do it.



It would cost much more than $30. Producing shows and movies is freaking expensive.
Then you have a narrow view of what shows you want to watch...$20 is maybe Netflix and 1 or two other streaming services. Unless you feel like juggling your subscriptions all the time it's a nightmare.

Just now my wife and I are watching Ted Lasso on Apple, Malcom in the Middle and Only Murders in the Building on Hulu, random Netflix movies and tv, Peacock for the office, and soon paramount+ for Star Trek content and Yellowstone. That doesn't even talk about my MLB subscription or Disney+ for the kids. $20 may get you "all" you want, but not most.

Yup it is...but like the music industry learned .99 cents a song or a per stream income model is more then zero you get from piracy.
 
So in your opinion not paying the people that produced expensive stuff is not harming anyone? Really?
I'll agree with you on that. Justify it all you want, piracy is stealing and is harming people. You may view them as already rich and greedy, but it's stealing. If you want to be okay with that, fine, but it's no different then walking in a best buy and stealing a bluray.
 
Separately and of higher priority though is humans being able to share bits of information digitally without any inhibition so long as that information does not do harm to others or society.
not paying what other people paid to produce harms society and other people. Seems to me you’re just trying to find some moral excuse.
 
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It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)

But hopefully you acknowledge that this is no excuse for theft or even an extenuating factor. I've read the Bill of Rights quite a few times, and I don't see anything about TV shows or movies in there 😉

EDIT: Wow . . . just read through more of this thread, and there are actually members here admitting (apparently without any sense of guilt) that they are stealing content. I mean, I'm not naive enough to think that no one here does that, but you'd think they'd at least be wise enough not to announce it on a public forum. Yikes! What is wrong with you people?!
 
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Then you have a narrow view of what shows you want to watch...$20 is maybe Netflix and 1 or two other streaming services. Unless you feel like juggling your subscriptions all the time it's a nightmare.

Just now my wife and I are watching Ted Lasso on Apple, Malcom in the Middle and Only Murders in the Building on Hulu, random Netflix movies and tv, Peacock for the office, and soon paramount+ for Star Trek content and Yellowstone. That doesn't even talk about my MLB subscription or Disney+ for the kids. $20 may get you "all" you want, but not most.

Yup it is...but like the music industry learned .99 cents a song or a per stream income model is more then zero you get from piracy.
That’s what I do, I juggle. If you want immediacy, then pay the price and don’t complain. Immediacy always comes at a cost; always.

and no, it’s not a nightmare at all. It takes a whole minute every one or two months.
 
Yes. All.

Notice: I didn't say "All. Now."
I said, "All."
Still lol.
Point out any current video streaming service that allows me to watch “any” and “all” contents in existence, in full, wherever I can and whenever I can.
I’m not asking “now”, just “available”.
 
I'm still a Cable Guy.
My favorite channel (MeTV) does not stream.
Only cable is compelled to make OTA TV available.
Cutting the cord means kissing many useful channels bye-bye.
All that said, I don't pay for anything beyond my cable.
Apple TV+ is probably the best thing Apple does.
I don't have any current Apple devices.
I don't really want any, but would like to use Apple One.
It should not be mandatory to own an Apple device to use Apple Music,
iCloud and Apple Arcade.
Can't use the iTunes Store without Windows.
Not going to pay Apple for anything until I can use their services on my next computer OS, which could end up being Linux.
 
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