Apple Struggling to Keep Up With Increasing Piracy of Apple TV+ Content

[BuddyTronic]

Yeah they didn’t remove any NOW cause likely those licenses are still valid. Wait until they actually remove contents from their service, as it will happen.
And oh, Apple Music removes contents too, you just happen to not notice.

Totally they have removed content - check my example:

Really cool song version "Train To Nowhere" by Savoy Brown "Blue Matter" Album - can't get that in Canada Apple Music anymore. They do not notify you either. They play a different version that I do not like as much as the original! Where did it go? What the heck happened? You have a Apple Music "playlist" and even if you "downloaded" the song when you play the song you put in the playlist 3 years ago, it has CHANGED to a different version of the same song, but NOT the same version of the song! It's horrible. Just imagine if a guy had a lot of particular versions of songs he liked and then one day without notice, they are all substituted with different versions - I couldn't believe it happened!

So for music, I have to say - there is a reason to get the tunes without the digital protection.

OH - just imagine the woke world and what they did to my "Purchased" RoadRunner and Coyote Bugs Bunny videos! They are basically vaporized. I paid like $60.00 and now they are giving me something not quite the same as what I thought I was "buying". It's not fair - and unfortunately it's not worth my time to even complain.

Same with Jonny Quest cartoons - I think I paid for these - and not sure I still have them in my "collection".

I spent hundreds of dollars on "buying" digital content - and some of it has changed - without notice! It's all due to "media ownership rights" or who knows what - I really don't even know.

 

[B.Bain]

It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)

I'm the oddball in that I despise digital streaming and prefer physical ownership.

 

[InGen]

not paying what other people paid to produce harms society and other people. Seems to me you’re just trying to find some moral excuse.

Putting aside the fact that sharing freely replicatable electron arrangements on a hard-drive has no moral connotations unless it leads to real-world harm, suggesting it might in this context only makes you sound like a corporate mouthpiece.

Also, seeing the sheer prevalence of your responses in this thread and general post quality, perhaps you should reconsider your choice of display picture, given that any signs of stoicism seem absent from the image that purportedly represents it. However each to their own.

 

[yaxomoxay]

But then why isn't the music industry doing this? Seems like they could make more money through fragmentation (not trying to give them any ideas, but...) Maybe it's because music you listen to over and over, not so much with TV and podcasts.

Because it's high rewards for a very low cost. They don't even have to distribute it anymore, and its reach is almost global.

 

[Shirasaki]

Oh please. You know very well what I mean. I never said "all now" or all at once. I said that they're all available for you to choose, and you can watch them for less than $20/month. Just cycle through them and you will watch them all. It will take you a few months, so? Stop justifying piracy.

Ok, if I pay $20/mo and I select packages I want to watch each month from different providers instead of managing a gazillion number of accounts, then sure, I might consider it. But no, I need account abcdefghi to watch contents I want, remember passwords, give credit card info to companies who have no idea what cybersecurity mean.

Also, georestrictions exist, and customers just don’t care why it exist if the favorite show is not available in their region for whatever reason. Yeah I pay $20/mo and he also pay $20/mo but somehow I can’t watch the show I want to watch but he can thanks to georestrictions.

Content creators want to earn money? Perfectly reasonable and few if any would bother pirating if the content is delivered in good quality at a reasonable price, with decent enough service attached to it. But that’s not the world we are living now. If your needs can be perfectly satisfied with your complex management then good for you. But again, this world is never black and white. As long as those stuff exist, as long as customers are frustrated, they will find a way to get what they want as long as it is reasonably possible.

 

[ignatius345]

Look, I've pirated a thing or two, but these days frankly I just don't have the time or feel like taking the risk, running a proxy and monitoring downloads, managing the files, and of course navigating all those weird sites and wondering if I'm gonna pick up a trojan of some kind one of these days... Meanwhile that Apple TV+ subscription is literally 4 bucks a month when you pay for the year.

Never mind the fact that at this point the availability of stuff on subscription platforms vastly outweighs the time I even have to watch it all. I guess if my circumstances were different I'd be more tempted to go back to the Dark Side. I'm not making any kind of grand moral statement here, but unless it's something truly unavailable otherwise it's not worth it for this old pirate.

 

[adamjackson]

I'm the oddball in that I despise digital streaming and prefer physical ownership.

Not odd at all. I still purchase movies & TV shows on disk form. I’m talking about the typical consumer. I love that I have the original Office and other TV shows. People complaining their favorite show is leaving streaming and I don’t really have that issue.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Putting aside the fact that sharing freely replicatable electron arrangements on a hard-drive has no moral connotations unless it leads to real-world harm, suggesting it might in this context only makes you sound like a corporate mouthpiece.

What you are proposing leads to real-world harm. So your proposal is dead on arrival. Thanks for ad hominem #1.

Also, seeing the sheer prevalence of your responses in this thread and general post quality, perhaps you should reconsider your choice of display picture, given that any signs of stoicism seem absent from the image that purportedly represents it. However each to their own.

Thanks for ad hominem #2. It made me smile, to be honest. At least you give me an avenue to make you aware that cosmopolitanism is one of the most important Stoic precepts. What we're discussing here regards the entire human race, and since Justice is one of the Stoic virtues, arguing and discussing about what is just is not only advisable but necessary.

 

[macfacts]

Sad that people wont pay $5 a month for content they enjoy.

If online ads can pay for the web hosting to steam those pirate sites then the $5 is too much.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Ok, if I pay $20/mo and I select packages I want to watch each month from different providers instead of managing a gazillion number of accounts, then sure, I might consider it. But no, I need account abcdefghi to watch contents I want, remember passwords, give credit card info to companies who have no idea what cybersecurity mean.

Also, georestrictions exist, and customers just don’t care why it exist if the favorite show is not available in their region for whatever reason. Yeah I pay $20/mo and he also pay $20/mo but somehow I can’t watch the show I want to watch but he can thanks to georestrictions.

Content creators want to earn money? Perfectly reasonable and few if any would bother pirating if the content is delivered in good quality at a reasonable price, with decent enough service attached to it. But that’s not the world we are living now. If your needs can be perfectly satisfied with your complex management then good for you. But again, this world is never black and white. As long as those stuff exist, as long as customers are frustrated, they will find a way to get what they want as long as it is reasonably possible.

Well, then you are willing to pay the price.
But seriously, it's not really that much of a complex management. It takes a minute every one or two months, it's not hard at all.

 

[yaxomoxay]

I'm the oddball in that I despise digital streaming and prefer physical ownership.

It's much preferable, but more expensive. I purchase routinely Criterion editions, and never regret it.

 

[tgwaste]

Rise of piracy: I want to watch stuff at home at my convenience
Rise of streaming services: now I can watch conveniently at home, at my leisure and at reasonable prices. Piracy went waaaay down.
Fragmentation of streaming services: now I need subscriptions to like a dozen different streaming services to watch content at home at my convenience. Stopped at Netflix, a shared Hulu sub and Amazon Prime since we have the latter anyway. Anything that’s not there either doesn’t get watched, or pirated.

TLDR, piracy is on the rise again because there’s too many damn streaming services all wanting their pound of flesh.

Something not being convenient for you is not a reason to steal. If you cant or wont pay, you don't get to watch. People act like its their right to have that content or something. Thats absurd.

Having said that: spending money trying to combat piracy is useless. It's always going to be there.

 

[haincha]

People will continue to pirate until they're able to get what they want all in a single service. Having to purchase eight different streaming platforms to get everything is just absurd. I used to pirate music, but now with  Music, I've not pirated a song in years. Movies and TV are a whole other story. If there were an easy way to purchase items all into a single account/application like Plex, I'd pay for things in a heartbeat. But, considering I already pay for Hulu with Live TV, Netflix, Disney+, and  TV+. I feel like I'm already paying for basically everything. I just torrent the shows from the services I pay for.

 

[mthomas184]

I kinda stopped reading at "As the popularity of Apple TV+ grows".

Why? Dont think popularity is growing?

 

[tgwaste]

Personally, If I want to own a movie ill download it then buy the physical copy used either from amazon or ebay. For streaming services ill wait till the show has aired completely then buy a single month, watch it, then stop the sub.

 

[Shirasaki]

Well, then you are willing to pay the price.
But seriously, it's not really that much of a complex management. It takes a minute every one or two months, it's not hard at all.

To me the price I have to pay is far too great to ignore. Just managing a couple dozen other subscription services are already annoying to say the least.
Bit you do you do. We agree to disagree.

Also, owning stuff (even just a perpetual license) is nice.

 

[topdrawer]

Once the iPhone child porn scanner is in place, they can next start searching Macs, iPhones, and iPads for unlicensed video content.

they don't have to, they already know. most people don't even bother renaming their pirated files.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Bit you do you do. We agree to disagree.

Absolutely. No harm done, just different perspectives.

Also, owning stuff (even just a perpetual license) is nice.

After watching the video from the World Economic Forum presented by the world's leaders, I think that not owning stuff is going to be the norm.

 

[Shirasaki]

Absolutely. No harm done, just different perspectives.


After watching the video from the World Economic Forum presented by the world's leaders, I think that not owning stuff is going to be the norm.

Of course. Corporations hate people owning stuff and much prefer milking people to death.
But that’s another topic for another day.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Of course. Corporations hate people owning stuff and much prefer milking people to death.
But that’s another topic for another day.

Can't disagree here.

 

[turbineseaplane]

I find this whole situation laughable.

I've consistently - somehow - had a totally free Apple TV+ subscription and we haven't watched or bothered with anything other than For All Mankind.

They could simply never get us to pay for what they're offering content wise.

People are pirating any of it?
lol

Cracks me up -- seems like a waste of time and bandwidth.

 

[rpmurray]

It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)

That's why eventually there will be mergers and consolidation until there are only two or three big streaming services.

Why would anyone pay for the dog turd that CBS has turned Star Trek into?

 

[EvilEvil]

Apple has trillions of dollars. What are they exactly struggling with?

 

[sparkinstx]

Sad that people wont pay $5 a month for content they enjoy.

The thing is, now it's $5 times a bunch of different services, to see everything you want to see. Add them all up and it's like a cable bill. Think of all the stuff that was on Netflix that got pulled off to other sites, like "That '70s Show", and "The Office".

Motor Trend is like $4 a month, but they're part of Discovery. Now, there's Discovery+ (4.95/mo. with some ads, $6.95/mo. ad-free). I wish they'd move Motor Trend content to Discovery+, then for $6.95/mo. I could see that *plus* all the other Discovery shows (they could even go to $7.95/mo).

 

[tgwaste]

That's why eventually there will be mergers and consolidation until there are only two or three big streaming services.

Why would anyone pay for the dog turd that CBS has turned Star Trek into?

Discovery was good at first. Now it's WokeTrek. Picard is not only the worst trek ever made its literally one of the worst shows ever made in the history of television.