Apple Struggling to Keep Up With Increasing Piracy of Apple TV+ Content

[turbineseaplane]

Once the iPhone child porn scanner is in place, they can next start searching Macs, iPhones, and iPads for unlicensed video content.

I absolutely expect that some variation of "DRM verification of digital media files" is on the horizon at some point.
It may be when I go back to being an analog luddite or something, I don't know....have to see how bad we are talking.

Just the concept of pervasive surveillance down to that level disgusts me.
It's a dystopia

 

[Shirasaki]

Apple has trillions of dollars. What are they exactly struggling with?

They are struggling to pay Tim Cook’s yacht maintenance bill and renovation cost lol.
No, they don’t really financially struggle anything here. More like license agreements, contracts etc might be in danger.

 

[turbineseaplane]

Discovery was good at first. Now it's WokeTrek. Picard is not only the worst trek ever made its literally one of the worst shows ever made in the history of television.

As a TNG lover from when it was on TV originally, I can't believe how much I hate the Picard series.

I wish they'd absolutely just "stop". It's dreadful.
The concept, the writing, all of it.

Every additional episode of it just tarnishes the TNG legacy in my view.

 

[yaxomoxay]

As a TNG lover from when it was on TV originally, I can't believe how much I hate the Picard series.

I wish they'd absolutely just "stop". It's dreadful.
The concept, the writing, all of it.

Every additional episode of it just tarnishes the TNG legacy in my view.

Really that bad?!? Glad I am not watching it. TNG was the best.

 

[Shirasaki]

I absolutely expect that some variation of "DRM verification of digital media files" is on the horizon at some point.
It may be when I go back to being an analog luddite or something, I don't know....have to see how bad we are talking.

Just the concept of pervasive surveillance down to that level disgusts me.
It's a dystopia

Yeah, I also expect such system being implemented at some point, destroying ownership concept forever, unless you use, you guessed it, a Linux phone.
It’s a dystopia that nobody cares, sadly.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Yeah, I also expect such system being implemented at some point, destroying ownership concept forever, unless you use, you guessed it, a Linux phone.
It’s a dystopia that nobody cares, sadly.

 

[jsalda]

The streaming fragmentation is horrible. Even if they don’t download pirated material, people are still swapping logins with friends. Give us a unified solution and people will stop it all together. Great opportunity for Apple to integrate some of the smaller services into AplleTV+.

 

[lexvo]

You don't need all those services at the same time. The beauty of streaming services is that you can cycle them, binge watch them, and then cancel. If you want to see everything at once, as soon as it comes out, well, that means you're willing to pay the price for it, so don't blame the provider.

Right now I have Netflix, Peacock, and Apple TV (*). Peacock will soon be canceled and replaced by HBO, which will be replaced in a couple of months by CBS.

(*) I got Apple One.

Basically, I agree. But the trouble is that content gets deleted. On Netflix I was watching Vietnam and halfway the whole series was removed. A month later I wanted to watch some thriller series, but found out that seasons 1-3 were not available anymore (only season 4 and 5 available). I don't pirate and maybe I was just unlucky, but I hate that they remove content that's not that old (and therefore have limited time to watch).

 

[nt5672]

No, it's because people are spoiled and want stuff for free, and immediately. And they also expect good content.
You can watch all the shows you want for less than $20/month.

I would say that it's because if you watched all of the new content available on all streaming services for a month it would NOT be worth $20.

 

[yaxomoxay]

Basically, I agree. But the trouble is that content gets deleted. On Netflix I was watching Vietnam and halfway the whole series was removed. A month later I wanted to watch some thriller series, but found out that seasons 1-3 were not available anymore. I don't pirate and maybe I was just unlucky, but I hate that they remove content that's not that old (and therefore have limited time to watch).

I agree that they should be clearer on which show is leaving. It’s not that they delete it per se, often it’s the contract that is expiring and not being renewed.

 

[4jasontv]

TLDR, piracy is on the rise again because there’s too many damn streaming services all wanting their pound of flesh.

Piracy has always been primarily a distribution problem, not a financial one. I suspect that exclusive content actually has lower piracy in available regions than non-exclusive. If I had to guess Apple's content is mostly being distributed in parts of the world where Apple TV+ isn't available.

 

[thadoggfather]

It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)

Get your fill for a month and then cancel the subscription.

But I agree, it is absurd how out of control subscription fragmentation has ballooned

"it's just a cd a month!" model has turned into a digital mortgage.

 

[yaxomoxay]

But I agree, it is absurd how out of control subscription fragmentation has ballooned

"it's just a cd a month!" model has turned into a digital mortgage.

I agree with this. I just don’t see any way out especially considering the insane costs of new productions.

 

[mnsportsgeek]

It's not pirating for the service but for the content that is temporarily available through the service and then gone...

What content has Apple removed?

 

[Kierkegaarden]

I don’t know how these piracy sites work, but why does a site like Parler get shut down so swiftly by AWS and the domain registrar, and yet the piracy sites continue to proliferate?

I believe the internet will become regulated at some point. It is, generally speaking, a cesspool. It has been abused to the point where I sometimes forget the good it produced.

 

[ksec]

Apple just need to block all the torrent site on Safari or Mac DNS list to reduce the problem. /s

 

[thadoggfather]

I agree with this. I just don’t see any way out especially considering the insane costs of new productions.

not the problem of the consumer honestly. A blockbuster film costing hundreds of millions of dollars and bankrolling Tom Cruise still doesn't make me swallow the pill any easier "well the movie ticket is ONLY $25" should that ever happen. And I think it's not far off in coastal cities, what are they at, $20 now?

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Predatory financing and lack of general financial knowledge being exploited has gotten out of control too

"Get this ($49 hush hush) silicone case for only $4.08 over 12 months"

That's right: you can now finance a damn iPhone case.

 

[wirefire]

It’s Not $5 a month
It’s $5+$5+$15+$65+$20+$10+$12

…and then you still miss out on the new Star Trek because you have to also pay for CBS so screw it, we’ll pirate it. That’s what people are doing. They’re paying $150 a month for 10 different services and they still can’t watch Picard (or insert whatever show is exclusive here)

This is the problem. Streaming services boast a large amount of content but 90% of the content is unusable to the typical user. I have HBO Max for about 2-3 shows, I have CBS for Big Brother and Star Trek (this is worth it IMHO), I have Disney+ for Marvel / Star Wars (loosely), I have Netflix for random junk, I have amazon because I get it with prime (common Stargate), I have apple+ for.... for all mankind and foundation, peacock for lost symbol .... and the list goes on.

I don't care about the vast majority of the programming each of these services offer. if I am not watching the select items I want I am playing PS5 were I get vastly more entertainment per dollar. I am not one of those people that subs and unsubstantiated my streaming because quite frankly I do believe in these people getting paid and studios producing worth while content. I don't agree with the overwhelming amount of crap that gets put out with it. I dont CARE if Netflix has all of Seinfeld now... I am 42 years old and have seen it already I don't need a refresher on old school sitcom TV.

 

[arkhanjel]

I'm cool with paying subs to all the services that have shows that I watch continuously. What I take issue with is the services that think they're bigger than they are or worth more than they are. Like CBS before they changed over to Paramount+ for example. The other thing is the horrible user experience that most of these services have on all platforms. If they want the money it's about more than just content it's about he user experience as well. Because if you can't watch it in their app or on their website without jumping through hoops then a person is just going to not watch or turn to pirating.

 

[nvmls]

What you are proposing leads to real-world harm. So your proposal is dead on arrival. Thanks for ad hominem #1.

No it doesn't, corporate greed does. Don't cry.

 

[yaxomoxay]

not the problem of the consumer honestly. A blockbuster film costing hundreds of millions of dollars and bankrolling Tom Cruise still doesn't make me swallow the pill any easier "well the movie ticket is ONLY $25" should that ever happen. And I think it's not far off in coastal cities, what are they at, $20 now?

yes and no. While I do agree that some expenses are of doubtful nature (see your Tom Cruise comment), productions themselves are more expensive due to the increased demands in terms of quality and technology (including but not limited to CGI). Long gone are the days of Murder, She Wrote. Successful series now are basically 10-hour long movies of good quality.

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Predatory financing and lack of general financial knowledge being exploited has gotten out of control too

"Get this ($49 hush hush) silicone case for only $4.08 over 12 months"

That's right: you can now finance a damn iPhone case.

I certainly don’t disagree with this.

 

[nvmls]

After watching the video from the World Economic Forum presented by the world's leaders, I think that not owning stuff is going to be the norm.

Yes, I felt the same when we watched Saving Private Ryan, then our balloon bursted.

 

[yaxomoxay]

No it doesn't, corporate greed does. Don't cry.

Good to know that not paying stuff created by hundreds of individuals bears no real life issues. You know after all those actors, technicians, writers, publicists, drivers, etc can find another job. Possibly at McDonald’s.

 

[m7ammed]

Rise of piracy: I want to watch stuff at home at my convenience
Rise of streaming services: now I can watch conveniently at home, at my leisure and at reasonable prices. Piracy went waaaay down.
Fragmentation of streaming services: now I need subscriptions to like a dozen different streaming services to watch content at home at my convenience. Stopped at Netflix, a shared Hulu sub and Amazon Prime since we have the latter anyway. Anything that’s not there either doesn’t get watched, or pirated.

TLDR, piracy is on the rise again because there’s too many damn streaming services all wanting their pound of flesh.

One big issues that all these companies to be missing or ignoring is that on top of multiple services, different regions have different rights to content. We live in a world today that’s interconnected, doesn’t make sense to limit shows/subscriptions by regions. Disney plus is big examples where things aren’t Avila me everywhere. also, Netflix’s catalogue looks very different from depending on where you live.

piracy will always be there, but once you unify the service across the globe I’m sure you will have less piracy.

 

[nvmls]

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