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Did they build this thing to be an iMac and have a last minute change of heart? They easily could have stuck the M1 in it rather than the A13, and it would be complete.
 
Did they build this thing to be an iMac and have a last minute change of heart? They easily could have stuck the M1 in it rather than the A13, and it would be complete.
It does feel like that doesn't it.
 
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I’m not asking for research as I can think of excellent applications. I’m asking why *you specifically* believe it’s silly.
Apple reportedly had this thing ready for a while, yet when shipped it isn’t used to its full potential.
Cam not working correct, neither were the speakers, the stand needs to be replaced at a store for an extra fee, it has internal storage that isn’t used for much, the panel is basically 5 years old, or 7? I don’t remember. And it’s very expensive.
That’s all very silly to me.
 
I have not read through the entire thread so please forgive me if someone mentioned this already. I did think of one reason why 64GB might make sense. When Tesla first started releasing their cars, the MCU only had 8GB of storage. After several years of writing to the devices, the car became inoperable because they lacked the foresight to see that this would be an issue. When people think of monitors, they expect to be able to use them for 10+ years (at least I do). 64GB may be excessive (probably 32GB might have been enough), but I think it guarantees that they will not be subject to issues with write endurance. Just one possible reason…
 
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I have wondered why Apple hasn't yet automatically included ATV in their "expensive" monitors. I mean Samsung sells a smart monitor for a little over $300. I mean, really, for $1500 is that too much to ask?
Most Smart TVs are subsidized.

As for wi-fi, I thought that was already on the SoC?
It might be on the SoC, but without the antennae, you'll get no signal.

Can't wait for these displays to get attacked through the internet...
The computer itself would need to be compromised, or you to explicitly bridge the ethernet interface with your network.
 
It’s getting to where it’s almost impossible to hide just how arbitrary Apple’s limits are when imposed upon hardware by software. This thing could’ve been an Apple TV (without the need for a display).

This thing seems stupidly over-engineered and then intentionally crippled. Or maybe this isn’t engineering. Maybe it’s laziness/convenience and price gouging, because they have all these over-featured parts to use instead of something focused, less complicated, and less expensive.
I was thinking along these line as well but then looked the at the 27" LG 5K display that sells for around $1400. Granted it is height adjustable, but the plastic box, rather ugly design, lame speakers, etc. made the $1600 Studio Display price not seem so bad.
 
Apple reportedly had this thing ready for a while, yet when shipped it isn’t used to its full potential.
Cam not working correct, neither were the speakers, the stand needs to be replaced at a store for an extra fee, it has internal storage that isn’t used for much, the panel is basically 5 years old, or 7? I don’t remember. And it’s very expensive.
That’s all very silly to me.

The subject of the story is about Apple's new display having 64 GB of storage of which 2 GB is currently used. Why would it be "silly" should Apple use that extra storage bringing out new features in the future?
 
Instead of adding all that stuff they could have put the same XDR panel. make it a 27 inch XDR
And it would've cost 3x-4x the price...

I have absolutely no idea what this ethernet adapter does. all I know it's in the display, it has an IPV6 address and I can ping it.
I wonder about this. Curious if this is how they're downloading iOS updates to it? Reserve bandwidth on the TB3 by downloading iOS updates on a virtual ethernet interface that is already persistent? I'm going to assume that this is limited to local connectivity only. Can you confirm if you can ping it from other devices on the network? (not the locally attached Mac).

Did they build this thing to be an iMac and have a last minute change of heart? They easily could have stuck the M1 in it rather than the A13, and it would be complete.
Don't think so. I don't think the cooling in this could adequately cool the M1. I could be wrong. We'll have to wait to see what the teardowns reveal. But I think there's a reason Apple went with the chin version in the iMac 24". Fan proximity to chips & vents likely made an impact. I don't think the display panel generates the bulk of the heat these days.

I was thinking along these line as well but then looked the at the 27" LG 5K display that sells for around $1400. Granted it is height adjustable, but the plastic box, rather ugly design, lame speakers, etc. made the $1600 Studio Display price not seem so bad.
Agree. This was my feeling too. $1400 for cheap plastic, mediocre speakers or $1600 for impeccable build quality, great audio, a great 5K panel, and a camera that probably will get better with a firmware (iOS) update.
 
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And it would've cost 3x-4x the price...


I wonder about this. Curious if this is how they're downloading iOS updates to it? Reserve bandwidth on the TB3 by downloading iOS updates on a virtual ethernet interface that is already persistent? I'm going to assume that this is limited to local connectivity only. Can you confirm if you can ping it from other devices on the network? (not the locally attached Mac).


Don't think so. I don't think the cooling in this could adequately cool the M1. I could be wrong. We'll have to wait to see what the teardowns reveal. But I think there's a reason Apple went with the chin version in the iMac 24". Fan proximity to chips & vents likely made an impact. I don't think the display panel generates the bulk of the heat these days.


Agree. This was my feeling too. $1400 for cheap plastic, mediocre speakers or $1600 for impeccable build quality, great audio, a great 5K panel, and a camera that probably will get better with a firmware (iOS) update.
I wish they would have a made a 30" bare bones model. I don't need the speakers (I use powered studio monitors) or a webcam, but oh well!
 
You might be talking about Huawei MateView
For the price of a studio display I can buy 3 huawei mateview displays and get £300 change. Mateview is great if you’re a coder or a data analyst. With its 16:9 format the Studio display is just an overpriced leisure contraption. Moreover 5k resolution is vastly overhyped.
 
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or can you imagine if apple allowed you to store stuff on the monitor as a flash drive? just the possibilities of not letting memories go to waste.
 
Don't think so. I don't think the cooling in this could adequately cool the M1. I could be wrong. We'll have to wait to see what the teardowns reveal. But I think there's a reason Apple went with the chin version in the iMac 24". Fan proximity to chips & vents likely made an impact. I don't think the display panel generates the bulk of the heat these days.
The M1 is passively cooled in the iPads, MacBook Air and base model 24" iMac, so I suspect in a display this thickness it would be no problem at all. If the 24" iMac wasn't too thin to even accommodate an Ethernet port, or if the back curved out a bit, it wouldn't have needed that chin. Just a design decision. :)
 
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Don't think so. I don't think the cooling in this could adequately cool the M1. I could be wrong. We'll have to wait to see what the teardowns reveal. But I think there's a reason Apple went with the chin version in the iMac 24". Fan proximity to chips & vents likely made an impact. I don't think the display panel generates the bulk of the heat these days.
Going by iFixit's preliminary teardown, it looks to have bigger fans than the M1 iMac @ric22

 
For the price of a studio display I can buy 3 huawei mateview displays and get £300 change. Mateview is great if you’re a coder or a data analyst. With its 16:9 format the Studio display is just an overpriced leisure contraption. Moreover 5k resolution is vastly overhyped.
Which Mateview model? In the US the one I'm seeing that is at all comparable is a 28" 4K for $1587 USD on Ebay. I can buy the 5K Studio Display for that money.
 
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