Feels like Apple couldn't get together an improved display in time, so just got one out of the iMac parts bin, and put some new sheet metal on it.
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Apple Studio Display Reviews: 'A Confounding Miss'
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I think it’s a bit more complicated than that. And when you say ‘in time’, why would they need to release a product specifically to what competitor in what time frame?
You wanna link me to where you found a $499 27”, 5K, mini-LED monitor from LG? Bonus points if it has speakers / camera / microphone built-in and doesn’t look like ****.
Which is sort of my point for the people complaining about the price of the Studio Display. Most monitors in this ~$1500 price range are still just 4K, even if they’re 27” or 32”, because PC OEMs don’t take the hard road of making the things that Apple makes. Users here need to decide if they want Apple to make displays or not. Apple isn’t making a $400 display, so if a $400 display is the benchmark around here there are a whole bunch of forum posters who are going to need to get over themselves. Won’t happen, but it needs to.
I think that it's a bit fallacious to systematically ask for exactly the same specs for what constitutes "competition".
Otherwise I'd be able to present a trapezoidal B&W floor standing display as something without peers... even though the specs may not suit a lot of use cases.
The reality is that users will make compromises between varying specs and show more or less elasticity for each sort of specifications depending on their application.
I'm personally rather drawn into displays for visual applications (photo, video, graphical applications), and for what I do 4K vs. 5K is an acceptable compromise if it nets me benefits Apple's Studio Display can't provide.
Unfortunately this has been the trend for a while now at Apple. Even the XDR display is way overpriced for what you actually get.
The Apple Studio Display's main draw is that it features a collection of USPs that you won't find anywhere else. If you happen to be attracted by all these USPs at once it might be a very interesting purchase. My guess here is that these people aren't that numerous.
Unfortunately the display itself other than its resolution is quite uninteresting. You won't find something "better" elsewhere in every way, but you'll find plenty of alternatives that may be more or less better suited to the task you'll use it for. I would actually argue that for some of the "creatives" Apple seemed to market the Studio combo to, the Studio Display isn't a great buy in 2022.
All of the following provide better specs in one or multiple ways over the Studio Display (and worse in others), for a similar-ish or cheaper price (well TBD for one of them, but given what the price the TVs using the same panel will be at...) :
Dell UltraSharp 27 Inch 4K USB-C Hub Computer Monitor - U2723QE | Dell USA
View the Dell UltraSharp 27 Inch 4K USB-C Hub Monitor (U2723QE), the world’s first 27 inch 4K monitor with IPS Black, or shop all Computer Monitors at Dell.com.www.dell.com(that one should quell the idea that the XDR's backlighting is anything to write home about in 2022, although I'm quite skeptical about the algorithm)
Acer Predator X32 FP and Predator X32 gaming monitors bring 4K 160 Hz mini-LED HDR goodness for both gamers and content creators
Acer has launched two new gaming monitors in the Predator lineup — the Predator X32 FP and the Predator X32. These 4K 160 Hz mini-LED monitors are aimed at gamers, but they also offer color-accurate panels that cover 99% Adobe RGB for content creators. The Predator X32 FP can also connect...www.notebookcheck.net
Pixel-perfect ROG Swift OLED Series displays offer the best of gaming for console and PC alike
The ROG Swift OLED PG42UQ and PG48UQ offer gamers the advantages of OLED panels in a display that’s primed for immersive, fast-paced action.rog.asus.com
Alienware 34 Inch Curved QD-OLED Gaming Monitor - AW3423DW | Dell USA
Shop Dell Alienware 34 Inch Curved QD-OLED Gaming Monitor with infinite contrast ratio & VESA Display HDR (AW3423DW) or view all gaming monitors at Dell.com.www.dell.comColorEdge CS2740 | EIZO
EIZO is a visual technology company that manufactures high-end monitors and display solutions for business, graphics, home entertainment, healthcare, maritime, security/surveillance, ATC and defense/aerospace.www.eizoglobal.com
Displays are about to experience a transition just as significant as what happened with higher PPI displays, and I'm personally a little bit disappointed to see that Apple wasn't able to be as agressive in that regard with their dedicated display as with their mobile devices. It seems that LG's new IPS black technology is fairly inexpensive to implement, at the very least I'd have liked to see that.
More worrisome to me is that at this price I'd expect low tolerances and great screen uniformity from a standard IPS display, and yet I'm fairly certain that QC won't be any better than the LG's or the iMac's : https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...e-monitor-where-5k-doesnt-describe-the-price/
Not being a gamer, super fast refresh rates don't interest me at all. Being a photographer and content creator, resolution and color accuracy greatly interests me.
The displays you mentioned do not meet my needs.
How about listing some displays that are better suited for my and many others' needs with better resolution and color accuracy, at a price lower or the same as Apple's?
What they’ve actually built is a monitor that should be about £600 but just doubled the price for the Apple logo.
In that the Studio Mac is supposedly intended to replace the higher end iMacs (and up), Apple needed a display to go with the Studio Mac.
Unless they give up and tell us just to go buy a third party display (or the $6000 XDR).
Feels like they have basically recycled the panel from the 27" iMac, with no meaningful display improvements.
So if the price point doesn’t meet the standards of what you’re looking for, then why don’t you shop a cheaper display then? Clearly this price point isn’t intended for you, and/or it’s above a price range that you possibly can’t afford.
Gee, I would just cut the power cord where it has failed and solder in the new plug or wire and away we go. I have a degree in electronic engineering, but my kids can replace a wired power cord. However, I have never had a power plug/cord on any computer I have ever owned fail, never, ever. Unless it is my MacBook Pro, I don't plug or unplug my computer, monitors, peripherals unless I am replacing them.
I have lived in the same house for 40 years, my office at home has been in the same room, same location in the room, same custom desk, for 39 of the 40 years, so when I say I have not unplugged my displays, I have taken the display out of the box, plugged it into my UPS and that's it. My current setup is a 2012 MacPro which is going to be replaced next week with a Mac Studio Ultra, my displays are a 27" LCD and a 30" Cinema display the 30" is going to be retired and replaced with a Studio 27" I just replaced by 2012 MacPro 15" with a MacBook Pro M1 Max. All my computers are purchased maxed out so I don't need to replace them for at least 5 years. I was lucky and got 10 years out of my last computer purchases. I will admit that I have an unusually stable environment. But I just don't see that have a fixed power cord is a deal breaker for most people with any decktop system they are after all designed not to be portable.
Me neither.
Some of the displays mentioned in the list above have better colour coverage than Apple's, and some will have better QC/uniformity.
I work in that field as well and the Studio Display doesn't provide me with anything that would improve my capacity to produce something (and not anything that I couldn't get my hands on years ago).
Mac Studio + an LG ultra wide increasingly looking like my next setup when the 2014 MBP gracefully retires
See my other reply about a damage cable, but cables generally don't just fail on their own. Most of the time they fail because some yahoo is yanking on the wire to remove the plug from the socket. If you grasp the plug to remove it from the socket, generally that keeps the power cable from getting damage. Now if you get a real powerful power surge, a direct hit by lightening, it would be possible that the plug would get welded to the power outlet, but if that happens you are going to have more problems then a damaged power cable.
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Which ones have better color coverage and quality control? They're still not 5K resolution, right?
Cool. Good thing everyone has your exact experiences!!!
Seriously though, it's ok to admit it is a mistake to not have a removable power cord.
Wut? How? There are plenty of folks who may want a stand and then want to switch to VESA mount down the line, or vice versa…
The problem with the price comes in when they tell me this is the only product between a low level 24" iMac and and upcoming Mac Pro as they discontinue our 27" iMacs.
Studio not for us? Fine. Tell what is? 24" iMac = No , Mac Mini = No, Studio = No, and Mac Pro = No
So if you want us to buy more than we need then come in at a better price point.
If the M1 Max studio came in at $1299 and the display at $999 (and maybe even $1299) then 27" iMac users who want to upgrade would be ordering like crazy. That extra $1000-$1300 though is what drives them off. Especially true when the out of the box device would be upgraded by most 27" iMac users - storage and memory.
Nope, it’s locked in at purchase on these new displays according to Apple’s site.
You pretty much have to pick the VESA option if you ever want any flexibility later
This has been happening over the last 5-6 years. Culminating in the outrageous pricing we see today across all the products.
Before they were genuinely great products worth paying that bit extra for.
Recently many of the products don’t have the features you’d expect for that price.
The XDR display is not even distinguishable from an iMac 5K display. I compared them side by side in the store and I could not see where that £4600 price tag came from.
