I've got the Bootcamp INF installed via Brigadier and audio still cuts out for me or is distorted on Windows. Mac-side everything works fine. I have external speakers so hasn't been a showstopper.
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Apple Studio Display Windows Compatibility
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I know this thread is about Windows and the Studio Display... but I was surprised when I hooked up my cheap Acer chromebook to a Studio Display and it worked great! Didn't try the camera, but the picture was perfect, and sound was clear... Considering how much trouble I've had getting my windows machines to play well with the ASD, I was suprised that the Chromebook handled it no problem...
That's interesting. I wonder if the folks running Windows in Bootcamp on a Mac, have everything integrated with the ASD (camera, mic, speakers) also running without issue?
I'm using an ASD with Windows in Bootcamp on an Intel Macbook Pro, and can confirm that everything works as it should. I was hoping I could run two ASD's with this set up, but even though the Macbook can do it in MacOS, it can't once I boot into Windows. Otherwise though, it's a great set up.
Reporting in with the setup that worked for me (MBP M1 16" 2021 and Windows PC (Asus GTX 1660Ti)):
- CABLEDECONN USB-C USB3.1 Type-C 8K Switch Bird Direction 8K @ 30Hz 4K @ 120Hz Power Delivery 100W 10Gbps Data Transfer Splitter Converter USB 3.1 C Gen-2 Cable Only for Video -- https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B092VHC166/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- (backup) YIWENTEC USB-C USB 3.1 Type-C 8K Switch Bi-Direction 8K @ 30Hz 4K @ 120Hz Power Delivery 100W 10Gbps Data Transfer Multifunction Splitter Converter (8K) - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0967GXNGK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- [Intel Certified] Cable Matters Thunderbolt 3 Cable 2 m (USB C Thunderbolt Cable) with 100 W Charging and 20 Gbps - in Black 2 Metres -- https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B01AS8U9KE/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Cable Matters USB C DisplayPort Cable 8K 60Hz (USB C to DisplayPort Cable, USB C to DisplayPort 1.4) with 4K @ 120Hz Black 3 m - Thunderbolt 3, USB4 Compatible for MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro -- https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XTYKLNJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -- this only carries video through, so no webcam, no speakers and no microphone. For those to work extra components and coding is required, specifically a Gigabyte PCIe card and a few hacks (see method3 here).
Both USB-C to USB-C provided cables that came with the Cabledeconn/YIWENTEC switches worked fine between the MBP and the switch. I had to get another (longer) one for cable management purposes.
What didn't work at all:
- 3 m USB C Monitor Cable to Type C 3.1 Gen 2, 100 W Power Delivery, 10 GBit/s, for Thunderbolt 3 Displays, Charging, Video and Audio Transmission - Black - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B083KMF7QT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Silkland USB C DisplayPort 1.4 Cable 3M, 4K@144Hz/120Hz, 5K@60Hz, 2K@240Hz/144Hz, 8K@60Hz, 32.4Gbps, 8K Thunderbolt 4/3 to DisplayPort 1.4 Cable for MacBook ook Pro 20 21, Mac Mini M1, iPad Pro, XPS 15/13 - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09M35WW87/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- CABLEDECONN USB-C USB3.1 Type-C 8K Switch Bird Direction 8K @ 30Hz 4K @ 120Hz Power Delivery 100W 10Gbps Data Transfer Splitter Converter USB 3.1 C Gen-2 Cable Only for Video -- https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B092VHC166/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- (backup) YIWENTEC USB-C USB 3.1 Type-C 8K Switch Bi-Direction 8K @ 30Hz 4K @ 120Hz Power Delivery 100W 10Gbps Data Transfer Multifunction Splitter Converter (8K) - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0967GXNGK/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- [Intel Certified] Cable Matters Thunderbolt 3 Cable 2 m (USB C Thunderbolt Cable) with 100 W Charging and 20 Gbps - in Black 2 Metres -- https://www.amazon.de/-/en/gp/product/B01AS8U9KE/ref=ppx_od_dt_b_asin_title_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Cable Matters USB C DisplayPort Cable 8K 60Hz (USB C to DisplayPort Cable, USB C to DisplayPort 1.4) with 4K @ 120Hz Black 3 m - Thunderbolt 3, USB4 Compatible for MacBook Pro, Dell XPS, Surface Pro -- https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B06XTYKLNJ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1 -- this only carries video through, so no webcam, no speakers and no microphone. For those to work extra components and coding is required, specifically a Gigabyte PCIe card and a few hacks (see method3 here).
Both USB-C to USB-C provided cables that came with the Cabledeconn/YIWENTEC switches worked fine between the MBP and the switch. I had to get another (longer) one for cable management purposes.
What didn't work at all:
- 3 m USB C Monitor Cable to Type C 3.1 Gen 2, 100 W Power Delivery, 10 GBit/s, for Thunderbolt 3 Displays, Charging, Video and Audio Transmission - Black - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B083KMF7QT/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1
- Silkland USB C DisplayPort 1.4 Cable 3M, 4K@144Hz/120Hz, 5K@60Hz, 2K@240Hz/144Hz, 8K@60Hz, 32.4Gbps, 8K Thunderbolt 4/3 to DisplayPort 1.4 Cable for MacBook ook Pro 20 21, Mac Mini M1, iPad Pro, XPS 15/13 - https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B09M35WW87/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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Just to be clear, with the Cablematters USB-C Displayport cable between the ASD and your Windows PC video card, everything worked with the ASD? The built-in camera, built-in microphone, and built-in speakers all worked without issue? How about the USB-C ports on the back of the ASD?
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only video is carries through, no webcam, no mic and no speakers. For those to work you'd need a Gigabyte PCIe Card and a few hacks in windows (see method 3 here). I'm waiting on those parts to test them out.
LE: I've updated my original post to reflect this
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There's no USB functionality even if you connect without a switch? There should be at least USB 2.0 stuff. Like when connecting with a Wacom Link Plus or a Belkin Charge and Sync Cable.
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Oh wait, never mind. You don't get USB if you're using a USB-C to DisplayPort cable instead of a Wacom Link Plus or Belkin Charge and Sync Cable.
Update: I connected my Macbook Pro to the ASD, and a firmware update became available. I updated the ASD firmware, and reconnected the ASD to my Windows machcine via TB. Everything now works without issue: the built-in speakers, mic, and camera. Didn't need to install any Bootcamp drivers.
wow!
How do you connect your windows to the ASD? DP-usb-c cable, TB4 cable (does the 3090 FE have a TB port?) or kvm (which one?).
My motherboard has two built-in TB4 ports, and two built-in DisplayPort inputs. I connect a short DisplayPort cable between the video card and one of the motherboard DP inputs. Then I just connect one of the TB4 ports on the motherboard to the TB input on the ASD.
I realize this thread has gone dark for a month or so, but I've followed it closely and tried most if not all the solutions (incl. Justin Searls, Niels Leenheer, Natsuki Times etc.) without finding any success. In the hopes that someone else might be in, or have been in similar circumstances and gotten their ASD to work, here's my experience. I'm desperate for some good advice to get over the hump. Thanks in advance!
My system:
HP Z4 G4 (Intel Xeon W-2135 3.7 GHz, 64GB RAM)
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P4000 (4x display ports; no TB, no HDMI, no USB-C)
1. Display Port 1.4 to USB-C single cable method
Tried the Cable Matters DP > USB-C cable per a lot of recommendations, but got no response from the ASD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J6DT070?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
1.1 Tried two other Display Port 1.4 to USB-C cables just to be sure (all 8k and bidirectional). Here and here. No dice.
2. PCIe Expansion Card Method:
Couldn't get the Gigabyte GC-Titan Ridge 2.0 Thunderbolt 3 card fast enough, so tried the Asus Thunderbolt Ex4 instead. Install was easy enough; 10-1 pin USB internal cable connected to motherboard USB heade, but my HP motherboard's TB header had a different number of pins than the Asus' cable. Read that JSearls had a similar situation and just kept that cable disconnected. Connected the two external mini DP to DP ports from expansion card to GPU and then used the ASD included thunderbolt cable to the monitor. Installed driver. Nothing.
2.1 Thinking it may be a motherboard compatibility issue, I went straight to the source and got the HP Thunderbolt 3 Card. This one only came with one internal cable for the TB header, and it went in just fine. Connected the two external DP to DP ports from expansion card to GPU etc. etc. Nothing.
3. Belkin Charge and Sync Cable
Per other suggestions, I order this cable from VopMart in Hong Kong. Apparently it's only available in China, so I paid the ~$30 to express deliver it. Arrived today, plugged in the DP and two USB 3.0s to the pc and the USB-C to the ASD. Again, nothing.
"Nothing" = startup screen and light flickering
I should clarify that when I say "nothing" happened, that's not 100% true. With all the above options (except the cable matters cable which truly did nothing), I got the HP logo and "Protected by HP Sure Start" screen on startup. Then some rotating dots at the bottom of the screen (typical HP startup). That would disappear after a few seconds though and then I'd just get some mild, subtle flickering. But nothing else. I've used a different (pc) monitor with DP > DP cable just to be sure things work otherwise, and yes, everything's fine.
So, I'm stumped. I'm running up on my 14 day Apple return policy. Is it worth it to try the Gygabyte TB card? Is there reason to believe it will perform differently than the other two did? Is my GPU the problem? The PC itself? Anyone else have success with an HP and/or the Quadro 4000? Hearing so many other people get this to work, I'm sorta at a loss as to why my setup isn't working with any of the methods. Advice very welcome. Thx
My system:
HP Z4 G4 (Intel Xeon W-2135 3.7 GHz, 64GB RAM)
GPU: Nvidia Quadro P4000 (4x display ports; no TB, no HDMI, no USB-C)
1. Display Port 1.4 to USB-C single cable method
Tried the Cable Matters DP > USB-C cable per a lot of recommendations, but got no response from the ASD https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01J6DT070?psc=1&ref=ppx_yo2ov_dt_b_product_details
1.1 Tried two other Display Port 1.4 to USB-C cables just to be sure (all 8k and bidirectional). Here and here. No dice.
2. PCIe Expansion Card Method:
Couldn't get the Gigabyte GC-Titan Ridge 2.0 Thunderbolt 3 card fast enough, so tried the Asus Thunderbolt Ex4 instead. Install was easy enough; 10-1 pin USB internal cable connected to motherboard USB heade, but my HP motherboard's TB header had a different number of pins than the Asus' cable. Read that JSearls had a similar situation and just kept that cable disconnected. Connected the two external mini DP to DP ports from expansion card to GPU and then used the ASD included thunderbolt cable to the monitor. Installed driver. Nothing.
2.1 Thinking it may be a motherboard compatibility issue, I went straight to the source and got the HP Thunderbolt 3 Card. This one only came with one internal cable for the TB header, and it went in just fine. Connected the two external DP to DP ports from expansion card to GPU etc. etc. Nothing.
3. Belkin Charge and Sync Cable
Per other suggestions, I order this cable from VopMart in Hong Kong. Apparently it's only available in China, so I paid the ~$30 to express deliver it. Arrived today, plugged in the DP and two USB 3.0s to the pc and the USB-C to the ASD. Again, nothing.
"Nothing" = startup screen and light flickering
I should clarify that when I say "nothing" happened, that's not 100% true. With all the above options (except the cable matters cable which truly did nothing), I got the HP logo and "Protected by HP Sure Start" screen on startup. Then some rotating dots at the bottom of the screen (typical HP startup). That would disappear after a few seconds though and then I'd just get some mild, subtle flickering. But nothing else. I've used a different (pc) monitor with DP > DP cable just to be sure things work otherwise, and yes, everything's fine.
So, I'm stumped. I'm running up on my 14 day Apple return policy. Is it worth it to try the Gygabyte TB card? Is there reason to believe it will perform differently than the other two did? Is my GPU the problem? The PC itself? Anyone else have success with an HP and/or the Quadro 4000? Hearing so many other people get this to work, I'm sorta at a loss as to why my setup isn't working with any of the methods. Advice very welcome. Thx
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You won't have usb, speakers or we came however.
Your only solution is to use this cable Moshi USB C to DisplayPort Cable 1.5m/5ft, Support 5K@60 Hz, 4K HDR, VESA Certified, Aluminum Housing, Thunderbolt 3 Compatible (Ensure Monitors Accept DisplayPort Signal) https://a.co/d/8o8h1fR
You won't have usb, speakers or we came however.
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I'm 95% sure it's your video card. All the cables solution like the Belkin, or display port to USB-C will only work with video cards that support display stream compression (DSC). That's how it works, otherwise you would need 2 display ports from your card to be combined into one thunderbolt port. Played with that myself, too buggy.
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Thanks, Alaman64--this makes a lot of sense to me. I'd read about the DSC issue, but wasn't sure how to confirm whether my card supported it or not. Given my experience and the consistent failures, the GPU seems to be the constant. I'm tempted to install an additional GPU (order one overnight from Amazon--Nvidia RTX 3060 perhaps?) and see if that makes the difference. It's obviously not the cheapest solution, but I could use the additional horsepower for rendering (architectural) anyhow. I assume these more recent GPUs support DSC?
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Yes, DSC is supported on the current and previous-gen GPUs, i.e. NVIDIA RTX-2xxx/3xxx/4xxx (Turing and newer) and AMD RX-5xxx/6xxx.
Yup, the P4000 is a Pascal card and most definitely does not have DSC so won't work. 3060 is not a bad choice. Numerous folks here have had success with 3000-series GPUs and the Studio Display.
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I had a similar blank screen/flickering issue trying to use the Belkin Charge and Sync Cable with a 1070 Ti. I was able to resolve it by connecting a second monitor to access NVIDIA Control Panel and change the resolution of the Studio Display to 4K to temporarily stabilize the image. Then I changed the Output Dynamic Range to Limited and restored the resolution to 5K. This drives the display at 5K 60hz 6-bit, which is the max possible without DSC. Hope this helps!
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Other thing that doesn't get mentioned enough is that Gsync will cause blanking and flickering on the Studio Display and sometimes the Nivida driver decides to turn on GSync, either when it first sees the monitor or during subsequent updates. I'd noticed it before and then was setting up a new PC last week and suddenly got screen blanking. I checked the Nividia control panel saw Gsync was turned on. Disabling it fixed the problem.