Apple Submits Mystery 'Wireless Device' With Bluetooth and NFC to FCC

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  1. mike... macrumors regular

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    So it can figure out if somebody is home, and who, and set the temperature.
     
  2. Urban Joe Suspended

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    requested permanent confidentiality.... is this a standard option for most other companies or is FCC playcating to Apple b/c I dunno.... Al Gore is on the board? just wondering
     
  3. realeric macrumors 65816

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    It could be a Apple Pay terminal developed by Apple.
     
  4. CJA90, Sep 23, 2016
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    I work in the Physical Access control space (Example: Card Access). D0 and D1 often is coupled with RS485 on our controllers for Data 0 and Data 1 wiegand (serial) connections.

    Usually this isn't used in consumer spaces so maybe it is for internal uses. Here is some details on Wiegand interfaces (D1/D0) for card access systems.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiegand_interface

    Apple uses access control all over the place including on the Apple Watch drawers in their stores to access the demo watches.
     
  5. Ries macrumors 68020

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    Speakers, like the sonos play:1. The NFC is for easy bluetooth pairing with devices (other than Apples).
     
  6. G4R2 macrumors 6502a

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    My first thought based on the description is that it's an input device of some kind, like a mouse or trackpad. It could also be a speaker but the lack of wi-fi would mean that it would lack Airplay.

    If it's an input device it could provide NFC functionality to legacy Macs making iPhone and Airpod pairing easier.
     
  7. Michaelgtrusa macrumors 604

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  8. Rocketman macrumors 603

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    I hope it is a POS device to rapidly expand NFC usage to millions of small retailers.

    The RS-485 reference makes sense for existing legacy register systems.

    Rocketman
     
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    Definitely hoping for an Echo-like device. A thermostat would be nice too, but at this point I need something to improve Apple's music experience, not do something that my current thermostat can already do
     
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  12. Gav2k macrumors G3

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    Apple TV there is a clue further down the filing.
     
  13. Zirel Suspended

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    An Echo-like device would have WiFi for sure.
     
  14. DotCom2 macrumors 601

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    You may have something there.
    It would promote their Apple Pay very well.
     
  15. i hate phones macrumors 6502a

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    what's the clue?
     
  16. xmonkey macrumors 6502a

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    Definitely doesn't look like a MacBook Pro.. so I'll pass..
     
  17. Arran macrumors 601

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    Let me guess...

    This device is wired to the wall just inside your front door. Home or office.

    An invited visitor to your house/office taps their iPhone on it as they enter. They are then magically given permission to control your home automation devices from their phone. Perfect for friends, relatives, babysitters, pet-sitters, kid's friends, workmen, nannies, etc.

    No more of this messing-around where you, the homeowner, have to act like a sysadmin and manually enter everybody's email address to grant them "permission" and all that nonsense. No, just a simple rule that if they're physically inside your house they can turn the light on. Just like a normal house! :)

    And when they leave bluetooth range (i.e., they leave for the day) they automatically lose access until the next time you let them in and they tap their phone on this NFC gadget thing.
     
  18. Zirel Suspended

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    I think you're almost there.

    But most Payment Terminals use RS-232 for serial (along with USB, Ethernet), and not RS-485
     
  19. wlossw macrumors 65816

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    RS-485 is used in model railways according to Wikipedia... Apple model HO scale train set confirmed.
     
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    Could it be
    Yes it could
    Something's coming
    Something good
    If I can wait
    Something's coming
    I don't know what it is
    But it is
    Going to be great

    - S. Sondheim
     
  22. SeaFox macrumors 68030

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    Lots of programmable thermostats have keypad locks, too. Apple Watch insures only the "Master(s) of the House" can play with the A/C.
     
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  24. jabbawok macrumors 6502

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    I use RS485 for industrial controls. It may be a good way to connect a load of sensors, like temperature together.
    pretty much all industrial comms use rs485.

    My money is on some kind of HomeKit Hub.
     

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