They’re going to now. Whining mods need to be put out with the trash.
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Then show me the sites. But you can’t because this magical moderating AI doesn’t exist.
Oh, but it will. Trust me, moves are already being made. Reddits site moderation will be run by AI. Existing mods have proven untrustworthy, and collusive. Can’t keep that ilk around.
Here is one scenario:
Reddit attempts AI moderation.The question is how do you train the AI as to wwhat is appropriate? They can try to set broad rules, but they are likely to result in deleting posts that are appropriate in one sub Redditt and not another. For example, what's appropriate in political sub Reddits may not be in others; so they need training that is reasonably sub specific.
1. They could let the users vote on appropriateness, and Hello Moderator Tay.
2. They could simply use whatever was allowed by past moderators as the data set, but unless that includes what was deleted then you'll skew the results.
3. They could hire moderators and train AI from their moderations, perhaps using past data as a starting point, but that is expensive.
4. They could change the API fees an get the old mods back, and use their moderation to train the AI concurrently and dump them when the AI moderation is good enough.
No doubt AI moderation is appealing because it eliminates the need for human mods and thus the current situation can't happen.
Reddit attempts AI moderation.The question is how do you train the AI as to wwhat is appropriate? They can try to set broad rules, but they are likely to result in deleting posts that are appropriate in one sub Redditt and not another. For example, what's appropriate in political sub Reddits may not be in others; so they need training that is reasonably sub specific.
1. They could let the users vote on appropriateness, and Hello Moderator Tay.
2. They could simply use whatever was allowed by past moderators as the data set, but unless that includes what was deleted then you'll skew the results.
3. They could hire moderators and train AI from their moderations, perhaps using past data as a starting point, but that is expensive.
4. They could change the API fees an get the old mods back, and use their moderation to train the AI concurrently and dump them when the AI moderation is good enough.
No doubt AI moderation is appealing because it eliminates the need for human mods and thus the current situation can't happen.
The reality is none of these will work well enough for a company about to attempt an IPO. AI is way oversold. There are some things it can do really well, but nuance is not one of them. And the reality is that it's hard to beat zero. They would actually have to pay for the AI...the mods cost nothing.
Reddit has already said that non-commercial 3rd party apps such as for moderators are in the "free tier", yet these mods keep putting Reddit in hostage.
These Redditors and mods sure seem to worship this millionaire Apollo guy.
I think there should be some sort of legal actioning happening now because these "protestors" are even threatening to release Reddit data for free.
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Totally agree, the most blatlantly moronic e-protest ever, reddit tyrannic sneaky moderator maffia (a long issue reddit managers never care of and now imploding in their face), it's know how a bunch of these mods get bribes on promoting or censor narratives, or banning redditors that interfere some interest.
An clear case IMHO is r/PrivacyGuides and r/grapheneOS coordinated it's moderators to ban critics and alternative, just name Rob Braxman or our friend Lois Rossman (the Mac repair activist), I've friends banned there just by exposing an simple truth: owning an pixel with grapheneOS automatically labels you as POI on whatever an vicious out-of law agent looking for s victim, same way you're not allowed to question privacy and safety on closed source hardware/software solution if you can't prove it (quite naive and convenient).
IMHO reddit is dead if managers/owners don't remove all these moderators on strike and define procedures for redditors to fair appeal on moderators disagreement as to remove and replace them from subs where they don't provide actual content.
I wonder how your magical AI gets trained to sort the good from the bad.
Oh, that's right: through human moderators.
That is a crazy article, and even then still not moderating. That’s just replying to prompts.
Very, very interesting article. Thank you for sharing.
Just not the ones who caused the blackouts and porn. Thankfully, Reddit has already stepped in and removed many of them. AI will replace the rest. It’s childish of you to think this happens immediately. The removal of power drunk neckbeards will be swift and merciless. That’s a fact.
Nowhere in any article I can find is mentioning AI as even an option for moderation.
After porn-y protest, Reddit ousted mods; replacing them isn’t simple
Replacement volunteers have big shoes to fill.
arstechnica.com
Literally in the headline (replacing Mods) and it still doesn’t mention AI. For a “fact” it seems to lack substance.
So long as the mods who were involved in this little insurrection have been removed and site banned, I don’t give a rats ass. It’s important to put these goobers in their place.We'll see how well "we had an AI decide" holds up in court.