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Apple Subreddit Goes Dark in Protest of Reddit's API Pricing Changes
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They come back with no moderation in that case. It’s a lot bigger than the apple subreddits. There are over 30 of the top 50 subs participating, and many of them have promised indefinite blackouts until change is enacted. That’s a lot of moderators willing to burn a bridge.
Even installing new mods will fundamentally change how the subs function and disrupt the way things are. Whether that would be for better or worse is anyone’s guess, but unmoderated subreddits would without a doubt turn into terrible cesspools rather quickly.
If you think it’s just one man’s app causing this, then you clearly don’t understand what is going on.
Subs that have no moderation get closed automatically after quite a short period. I pulled out of a decent sized sub I used to mod by myself and within about six weeks, it was closed.
It’s because they are insignificant. Companies and even people have proven if you weather the storm then you can come out the other side just fine.
Twitter did essentially the same thing and while ‘the echo chambers’ of a few moved to mastadon, the bulk did not.
Time will tell of people will stop using Reddit but I think there will be a little lull then people will come back.
subreddits are "moderated"?
you'd struggle to notice in the vast majority of reddit, and i include the so called "top 50" in that.
Subreddits going dark can't be accessed on any platform. That is a loss to ad revenue.
And in any case, devs aren't asking for the API to remain free. Just for it to have reasonable pricing.
Use better Subreddits then. Mods are incredibly busy on Reddit, and invaluable much of the time.
It is worth getting in a huff over, and I don't think you know much of anything about this issue.
- Mods can't do their jobs without 3rd party apps.
- People who rely on accessibility features are screwed without 3rd party apps.
- Thousands of OnlyFans-type creators are sidelined when NSFW content is blocked by the API. Yeah not a priority to most people but still, why do this.
- Some subreddits are truly amazing, and 3rd party apps with good user experiences make hours of conversation so much easier. People should care about having good-quality apps. The official Reddit app and website are some of the biggest trash out there.
"Despite backlash from the community, Reddit has yet to reverse course on its plans so far."
As the protest just started, premature to suggest that Reddit won't reverse course. And more than six thousand Reddits have gone dark so far.
As the protest just started, premature to suggest that Reddit won't reverse course. And more than six thousand Reddits have gone dark so far.
So imagine how bad it will be if they go unmoderated or with brand new mods without 3rd party apps as mod tools. Hint: baaaaaaaaad.
That's fine. Even though specific subreddits have helped me a ton, I am more than happy to see the ship sink if this is how they want to run it.
I don't think you know how reddit works... Apple the company has nothing to do with the r/Apple subreddit.
I have a feeling we will find that users don't love Apollo so much after all lol. People take out their pitchforks and cry in outrage but will quickly walk away and abandon the cause when it comes to taking out their wallets.
and now Techdirt has a whole article written about this question!
take a shot (of some sparkling water, of course) every time Masnick says “ridiculous” in this article. 😂 but really…there is no other word to describe it. I’ve never been the biggest fan of Reddit but my best friend uses it a fair bit for some STEM-related information/community for those who share her passion and this whole mess could end up (no pun intended) costing her that valuable resource. I applaud those who are going private indefinitely and hope we continue to see it happen with more subs; it’s obvious that Huffman is getting far too greedy for his own good, and it’s an ugly look that’s already coming back to bite him. the company’s IPO valuation can seemingly only tank from here.
if I recall, Tweetbot and Twitterrific both had subscription options—I don’t doubt many people paid for them, especially those who used Twitter for business-related purposes when it was still a remotely viable platform.
I’ve thought this whole time that this could be remedied with two incredibly simple factors: 1) Huffman swallowing his pride over ChatGPT being trained on Reddit data (that really is what started this whole mess, along with the sky-high IPO pipe dream); 2) pricing API access at a much more reasonable rate. if that’s a way they want to monetize, fine—to compare this to another social network currently embroiled in controversy, no one is paying $8 for that damn blue checkmark because it doesn’t mean anything anymore. many people were paying for premium features on their Twitter client of choice. Musky Man just decided to up and shut the whole thing down—Huffman (Huff-and-puff-Man? gotta come up with a new name for him) might as well be doing the same thing with prices like this, and with how truly ugly that AMA got.
This is why I hate public companies. They are gearing up to go public and NEED TO maximize profits.
Since I only use it to read a few subreddits and post casual comments, I’ve never found the official app lacking. But I’m also not a power user in the Reddit world.
I do understand the anger by people at what seems like a money grab. I agree that the price seems incredibly inflated. However, I also understand that a business can only live so long when operating in the red. Unfortunately a middle ground wasn’t found.
I do understand the anger by people at what seems like a money grab. I agree that the price seems incredibly inflated. However, I also understand that a business can only live so long when operating in the red. Unfortunately a middle ground wasn’t found.
As you’re posting this on a message board….🙄
People use Reddit for hobbies and other things. I go on it for a lot of things, and get better help/answers with HomeKit and other stuff I need help.
I also do a lot of outdoor activities and vacations. People can do both.
I am not the biggest fan of reddit, it is very political, and does censor a lot of stuff. Or the users will censor anything they don't agree with in down votes. However I fully support Reddit's decision. Why should free-loaders, like I guess Apollo, make money off of Reddit and strip Reddit of the revenue to run their site? If I was Reddit, I would never have allowed those third party API's from the start, as every one of those clients is missed revenue. Very smart decision from Reddit to ban these. Will this 'go dark' ban people are doing, do anything? Very doubtful. This isn't too much different from Apple not allowing third party payment systems on Apps. Why should Apple host and pay for the infrastructure for companies to sell apps and distribute apps, but get no money to pay for the distribution of said apps?
I agree, but the problem with this (and products/services in general) is that people also want *cheap* products/services. Unfortunately, cheap and good-quality are often mutually exclusive.