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This is such a horrible take.

If you want a secure device, keep installing apps the way you already do. The App Store wouldn't go away. But for those of us smart enough to vet external sources for apps outside of the App Store, we should be allowed to do so on a device we own.

It sure is

It also seems like a take that is completely ignorant about macOS existing and how it works and how it's "just fine", yet flexible.
 
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Got something to back up this claim? I mean, you or someone must have surveyed every single developer to arrive at that conclusion, otherwise you're just pulling it out of your rear.

Developers who know the cost of doing this all yourself are for it, myself included.
 
Their are ways to move countries.

you're still not getting it.

I didn't get to select the country to live in before setting up the foundation of what it means to live in it (family, friends, education)

I did select the smartphone before setting up the foundation what it means to live in it (services, buying apps, ecosystem of products)

country analogy does not work.
 
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Meanwhile, many developers are fine with 15%/30% cut and most customers are fine with a single App Store to find all of their apps.

As usual, gov trying to control someone else's success for no reason. Huge overstep.
They are not fine with the cut. I work in the industry, and we constantly talk about how absurdly high it was and how we would distribute elsewhere if we could.
 
Ah American politics, the epitome of smoke and mirrors to convince the public that their government is working in their best interest and accountable to their hard-earned tax dollars 😂
Allowing more competition increases quality and decreases prices. Period.

Apple will have to compete on prices and features, rather than cheap tactics.
 
About time.... if Tim Cook had any sense he would have proactively done things to avoid the fights Apple is now in all over the world. But this is the same person who wasted billions on an electric car and left his company years if not a decade behind on AI.

Nonsense.

How is Apple -behind- on AI when it's very profitable Apple devices being used to create the AI tools and consume them? Why does Apple also need to be an AI provider?

Yes, Siri needs to evolve with the times, but they are not suddenly a decade behind simple because Generative AI stormed onto the scene.

And the car project has/will contribute in ways we can't see. Not a failure.
 
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Depends on how you measure stagnation.

You picked a method that is favorable to your view.

I look at stock price. Which from 2000 to 2013 was flat. No growth.
Well two things. First, stock price by its very nature is based on speculation. And it turns out the speculation was wrong. And second, I think a lot of the stock slump had to do with the dot com bubble, which didn't only affect Microsoft. Apple's stock reached a new high in 2000 and went down over 80% 3 years later, despite their success of the iMac.
 
Allowing more competition increases quality and decreases prices. Period.
open platform is already in competition: there are many android flavors competing

closed platform needs competition. opening up the operating system is the opposite of increasing competition in closed platform space.
 
Well that's not Apple's fault. If Google were smart, they would work with the Android phone makers and offer a google play gift card to cover the cost of switching. Similar to carrier switching deals.
Or Android, and all other competitors can simply add Swift and Obj-C compiling capabilities to their IDE... update their chipset to run on cross platform languages. Problem solved. Devs can publish same code for any platform and not an issue. I don't complain that my Sony TV remote doesn't control my other devices. But I can modify my other devices to accept the signal Sony remote is sending... not Sony's problem to solve for me. So many opinions. I agree 100% not Apple's fault their product is superior and their ecosystem has been built around security, closed and simple. It's been the model since April 1, 1976 and everyone is still acting so surprised.
 
All Apple needs to do is allow iOS devices to be computers. Like the Mac, let me install software I want, even if Apple doesn’t like the content.
While giving those of us that enjoy the walled garden, to stay in the walled garden.

I’m not an attorney, nor do I claim to be even a novice when it comes to the law… but… whatever happened to “let the market decide”? Or “The consumer knows what they want”? Clearly the market has decided that they love the world apple has created. Otherwise 80+% of US Teens would not own an iPhone. If another company can do it better, they will and the consumer will decide to leave Apple.
 
it's amazing how people think they're advocating for their own interests when they're really shooting themselves in the foot.
 
This will drag on for years, and years. In the end the same number of people will be on the same side as today.

Eventually another villain will emerge and the process will begin again.

No substantive legislation will emerge during the time span. The only people to win will be the lobbyists.
 
If Apple loses, Apple will likely shut down in retaliation. See how that will destroy US tech industry.
It's statements like this that really show the sheer ignorance on these forums.

Apple will do whatever the shareholders decide. If Tim Cook chooses to pull out of a large market like the US, he will be voted out.

Apple is at the will of its shareholders. If Cook can't make money, someone else will.
 
Apple is not a monopoly. They do not own most markets - their competitors do. Yes, they can tweak some of their current practices, and I am a critic of a lot of the things that they do in terms of their products, services and software, but this is so overblown.

Others in the tech space absolutely loath Apple for making more money while pushing out smaller volumes of products - because Apple customers are willing to pay more for what they deem as better than the competition. Many of Apple's customers use their products because they are closed, secure and better than the competition - I am one of them.

If you do not like Apple's products, services, structure, programs, rules and political views and stances, you don't have to buy their products, buy their stock, develop for their platforms, carry their products in your stores or use them in your places of business. If this winds up hurting them, they will decide if changes are in order as the markets speak. There are plenty of options for the user - this is not true when there is an actual monopoly in place.

Lastly, since there is a lot of MAGA trash in this thread, you should probably return your 'woke' iPhone, and go to the dark side of Android and or Windows where you belong. You don't fit into the 'Think Different' world. You should give Apple up, like all things Disney and anything else you've applied a grievance to due to your gullible, conspiracy obsessed and inherently bigoted mindsets. The good news is, you can still keep your lobotomized, red-pilled heads up your asses, as this is still very much a free country, despite what your born-again-christian entertainment 'news' channels and talking heads tell you.

It's ironic, the iPhone, Apple's biggest money-maker, brought them to the masses, and made them so big, that it has attracted governments to step in, and a partial customer base that just doesn't fit with Apple's culture, but the allure still brought them in. Quite sad to see for some of us veteran Apple users. I do miss the days when Apple wasn't as big. I wish they had enough cash to go private and give the middle finger to anyone who objects to them and let people decide with their wallets if the company should succeed or fail - the way it should be.
 
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Yes really. Had iOS/iPadOS used third party app stores, apps wouldn't have followed guidelines. guidelines that translated well to other platforms like tvOS/visionOS (ex: minimum 44pt x 44pt button sizes that ended up being comfortable enough for visionOS customers to tap using their eyes and hands)
There's an implicit, and fallacious, assumption embedded in your comment: the belief that a restriction that was acceptable and constructive during the early growth stage of a product life cycle, continues to be acceptable and constructive if and when that product eventually achieves a position of market dominance.
 
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