Fortnite already went away. Epic intentionally got themselves banned because they wanted to force users to install a new store on iPhone and apps users currently use will leave the App Store.
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Apple Sued by U.S. Department of Justice, Says Lawsuit is 'Wrong'
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Fortnite already went away. Epic intentionally got themselves banned because they wanted to force users to install a new store on iPhone and apps users currently use will leave the App Store.
the DOJ's problem is that it'll be really hard to prove what the harm to consumers is. One may argue that maybe app store prices could come down? But no evidence of that has shown up. Apps tend to cost the same on every platform.
I do think apple closing apps from accessing certain hardware features is pretty BS, but what is the actual harm to consumers? Apple wallet is free.
I do think apple closing apps from accessing certain hardware features is pretty BS, but what is the actual harm to consumers? Apple wallet is free.
You're missing the mark
Less posting here and more reading the details of the cases will help
A company doesn't have to be a "monopoly" to employ "monopolistic practices". That's long and well established.
Yup, that's been the real fight... to deliver, again and again, a trusted and reliable user experience across many devices.
The govt wants Apple to toss out their well-engineered approach and have individual devices be more standalone. The Justice department doesn't comprehend why Apple devices are "magical".
While I stand with Apple, this is also good for them/us. It will force them to find ways to keep the magic while also opening up a bit more.
I'd love to see API functionality into iCloud, for example. Every other company offers an API to their cloud services.
No other way around.
Again that is the point you set up a foundation there. If your parents gave you your first smart phone you didnt get a choice. Ones foundation is in iOS now move to Android still foundation change.
You can choose to leave that foundation. You are choosing to stay in that foundation so yet again move. You have yet again listed logical issues with moving countries.
It does work. I am just using your arugment of saying go to Android and changing the base a little. It is the exact same argument. The fact that you can see it is crazy should point out how bad the argument go by Android over iOS is.
I am calling that entire argument of you have choice in smart phone OS a bull **** argument and you are kind of proving the case. But if you want to keep it up then my response to is move to a different country. It is the exact same argument.
Because this suit will take years and if the next President isn't Biden, none of what you listed will have a dime spent on it anyways and at the same time, the Conservative DOJ will squash this.
Cute to think DOJ and EU do not have a bunch of IT specialists as advisors in these cases.
If I may, why are you taking this personally? You seem really worked up over this.
But what is your point? Fortnite hasn't been available on the App Store for a long time. Opening up alternative app stores doesn't change the status quo if you want to stay 'secure' in your walled garden. You don't have access to Fortnite now and if in the EU, you still have a choice to install it or not. No one is forcing anyone to install a single thing outside of the App Store.
They can interoperate to their heart's content between their HW and SW. They just cannot hamper others from interoperating by denying access to some of the APIs or resources that they give to their HW. So, for instance, Apple should allow Pebble to access the same APIs that it allows AW. Simple concept. If AW is still better, then people will buy AW. But Apple knows that it cannot compete like that so it denies access to some APIs to other company HW.
Next you will be telling me movie theaters have no right to sell concessions at inflated rates or ban them from the outside because they make money on movie tickets.
So, you are arguing that every company has to have the same business model?
A lot of developers build closed housing communities and have strictly enforced contracts on what services or products the residents can use on homes they buy. Home buyers have the discretion to not buy if they don't like those terms. These communities are usually quite popular with the people that opt to live there and are preferred over traditional HOAs that lack planning of the community as a whole and reflect more on the whims of resident-controlled board.
Many is a number. 0.01% of Apple developers could be many.
I work in as well. Many on all sides of the arugment complain about it. The lack of side loading on iOS is something that is complained about more than the other way around.
There is a reason why their are jokes about pray to the Apple gods for approval. I find the ones who work in mobile and do iOS development tend to complain about Apple policies and setup more than the other way around.
So, we can't agree on universal healthcare or gun control but suing a tech company is our priority? OK. Great. So was this really pushed by Epic Games because of the Fortnite debacle? I'd actually prefer things the way they are now because usually people who push or this kind of thing on Android is to use "sketchy" apps. My personal thoughts
are that this was done due to the recent ruling in europe.
are that this was done due to the recent ruling in europe.
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Right, it takes two to tango. But the DOJ still brings up a couple good points. That doesn't mean Apple is a monopoly though. This will end in a settlement I think.
For some reason I remember something coming about after this suit. It was I believe found out that the main reason Apple and the book publishers did it was because Amazon was selling the books at or near a lose to and had become to large of a bookstore for the publishers to fight against solo.
The price fixing deal was just stupid and bad thinking in the long run, but the reason for the attempt was never addressed (afaik)
Apparently you don’t realize that the DOJ’s lawsuit against Google was started under the Trump admin. Sorry, but this ain’t a red versus blue issue.
Not that I disagree with the priorities you have, but the DOJ doesn't write legislation...
I won’t be telling you that, because ticket prices are split (not evenly) between theaters and movie studios, so…
No.
The house example is perfectly valid, but we have to look not much further. The computer business works like that, you buy the computer, it’s yours to do with it as you please.