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Microsoft was better after their antitrust case, I assume Apple will be as well.

Such a great point

Ultimately, this will be a good thing for Apple and they will likely bounce back better ... making better and more innovative products.

They've totally stagnated while resting on their laurels this last decade

Car cancelled .. Scuba mask flop .. we barely get any meaningful updates to products anymore ... software is a hot garbage mess of bugs..
 
Some of the bullet points in the OP are ludicrous, specifically the watch.

Is the DOJ proposing that Apple has to allow a Garmin to tap into the Health app data? What protections would users have from that being sold off via 3rd parties then?

When does the Apple Watch start using the Android equivalent out of the box then?
 
Trump, personally, has sued everyone. Not a headline anymore. If he had all the money he's paid lawyers on frivolous lawsuits, he could probably post is $454M bond.
My point is I don't think he would go out of his way to shut down the Google lawsuit when he sued Google himself. Maybe Apple, he seems like he's always had a soft spot for that company.
 
Then you’re completely misunderstanding. Apple will be forced to allow the existence of multiple other appstores. Consumers won’t be forced to use any of them, they will decide whether or not to use any of them

except when they leave and paying customers need to download a new store to continue using the app they bought

you're completely misunderstanding this.
 
One question I have, is there any app or subscription that would be cheaper if allowed to be installed directly or have external pay link? Hasnt been the case with Netflix, Max, Peacock and a few others that I have. This really is not to support the consumer.
 
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HAHAHAHA! :p

Like I am going to give two SOMETHINGS about the executives at Apple who voted (and would gladly vote again at the end of this year, because derangement / cognitive dissonance / blind party diehard loyalty / never learning anything / don't care about the prosperity of their children despite using that as a moral argument ad nauseam / or in most likelihood some combo) for this DOJ as an extension of Biden admin, to start poking the iPhone bear.

These same people who say 'ignore the border crisis', and 'grocery prices and commodities aren't going up', or *if* they are the Biden admin doesn't control prices and we still gotta blame those 1 time stimmy checks from 4 years ago now lol, and 'we must continue an endless war on behalf of Ukraine a country people couldn't identify on a map prior to recently, and re-releasing violent criminals right back into the streets due to Soros funded 'criminal justice' DAs spread across the country, etc.

.. and to that end, I say game on!

Hold Apple accountable!
Democracy is at stake!
Eat the rich!
My truths will live on!
Justice will prevail!

Blah blah blah.. blah blah.
 
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If an App is $10 on the Website, and $13 on the Appstore and if they do not let the developer inform the consumer that they can get the app cheaper on the website due to Apple tax, is it still difficult to prove that customers were harmed?

In any case, they must have prepared the case properly because it took them five years. They may have some means to be able to at leat try to prove it. However, Apple's legal department might thwart their efforts. It will need a lot of effort though, from Apple legal team. It is all a speculation but if anybody thinks DOJ (and 17 state attorneys) were unprepared for proving charges that they made in the suit, they might be in for a surprise.
The App being $13 on the Appstore vs $10 off is a choice by the developer and it's just a tacky as when stores and gas stations used to have two different prices for cash and credit. Honesty, I wished Apple would have just charged a flat rate per unit like they want to do in the EU with their CTF and then it would be obvious what these companies really want: to use Apple's IP and not pay for it. Instead, they play coy and make the argument about having to charge more to consumers and Apple is preventing them from giving them a better price without ever mentioning that difference in price is a legitimate licensing fee they are avoiding paying Apple.
 
yeah I'm totally sure developers won't leave the App Store.

I mean who would build a user base of millions, remove the app from the App Store, and get a good majority to download XYZ Store so that users can continue using the app they paid money for

oh wait...Epic tried that.
 
Get em!

I want to install Cydia on my phone, and I want restitution for all the time we couldn’t have it.
 
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I am not a lawyer or antitrust expert, so I could be completely wrong here. But what I find so odd about this lawsuit is that Apple does not have a monopoly on the entire market. They have a gigantic competitor in Android. And Android does all the things that the DOJ is saying Apple is not doing. So if customers want those things, they can switch to Android. And again, Android is not some niche product - it is basically Apple’s equal. So I don’t really understand how you can say customers are being limited by Apple when there is another large vibrant platform they could switch to. I don’t see why Apple needs to be more like Android. Now if 10 years down the road Apple’s market share becomes dominant, then maybe that’s a different story. But right now it seems like customers have two clear choices of different experiences, so why does Apple need to change?
 
This is, without a doubt, one of the most historic days in the History of Technology. Historic doesn't even really do it justice, honestly. The question is how will Tim Cook and the rest of the Apple C-Suite handle this challenge, perhaps one of the most important in the history of Apple?
 
How did you get the opinion of hundreds of millions of people and conclude the majority is ok with a walled garden while macOS has pretty much been wide open for the last 40 years?
Not sure how the OP arrived at their conclusion, but iPhone outselling the mac is a good indicator that quite a lot of people don’t mind the walled garden.
 
One question I have, is there any app or subscription that would be cheaper if allowed to be installed directly or have external pay link? Hasnt been the case with Netflix, Max, Peacock and a few others that I have. This really is not to support the consumer.
There is Qobuz which I believe offers lower prices outside of the App Store via their website. I'm not sure if there are others or not. However it isn't just that it would be cheaper. Sometimes, as in the case of Spotify, they want to offer their own service at the same price as Apple offers Apple Music but are unable to reasonably do so if they have today 15-30% of revenue to Apple.
 
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