Oh noes, the communist dictatorial wave has spread from Europe to the US of A. Everyone has become a communist apart from a handful of Apple fanboys!!
Not when Apple can still force the same level of security and scrutiny for deploying those applications.It’s going to make the consumer experience more confusing (for some) and less secure.
And? Users concerned about their health data should make sure they're using companies products that align with that view. It's not an excuse for Apple to block competitors access to a user's own data.Sure, but there’s nothing stopping companies from writing legalese in their TOS to allow them to sell it. Or updating their TOS so they will down the road and users are just bombarded with “accept” for the 75 pages they don’t read.
Then it sounds like we need some more regulations around what can be done with health data. Again, this isn't an excuse for Apple to act anti-competitively.The tech world is 90% data collection and selling, unbeknownst to users. There’s no reason health data should even be legal to sell, if this goes through it absolutely will be because that’s the current status quo.
So, Monopoly?Apple spearheaded the entire modern smartphone industry and added countless jobs in America and around the world…but ok
And in doing so, being unable to reach a majority of U.S. consumers. Which is part of why this suit is being filed. You connecting the dots yet, or no?They were never forced to select iOS. They had the option of developing for a different platform.
But the question is, will the developers stay in the App Store after the way Apple had run roughshod over them all these years. I think if Apple does not vitiate the atmosphere by still treating the developers like dirt, they may not see an exodus of apps. It can happen. Windows phone could not gain traction because they could not get developers to develop for their platform, even when MS was throwing money at them. Major apps such as Youtube, Netflix, etc., leaving could spell the end of the Appstore.Then you’re completely misunderstanding. Apple will be forced to allow the existence of multiple other appstores. Consumers won’t be forced to use any of them, they will decide whether or not to use any of them and most consumers will likely stick to the appstore, just like android users mostly stick to the Google Play store. If consumers choose to stick to only using the appstore and nothing else, I don’t see how their experience will change at all from what it is now.
Apple can still have their own App Store. I don't think the Government can force Apple to ship iPhones with pre-installed 3rd party App Store fronts. If that is what they end up trying to do, then the people need to rally and tell Congress how wrong they are.
I see you ignored the rest of the argument. So if an app you use CHOOSE to go to a 3rd party app store and leave App YOU have to follow.They were never forced to select iOS. They had the option of developing for a different platform.
No it isn't. You like the way things are now? Cool, then keep downloading all of your apps from the App Store. No one is going to force you to go elsewhere.It’s going to make the consumer experience more confusing (for some) and less secure.
new emojis fix all problemsApple is not as innovative as they think they are. My problem is not their business tactics but their marketing ones. The biggest issue being their attitude towards bugs. The OSs are littered with bugs that apple refuses to put resources towards because they seem to think they can just release a half-baked feature and then sit on their laurels.
My comment is about customers buying iPhones despite the walled garden, not about the case. There are several manufacturers selling smartphones that are very competitive, sometimes even cheaper, and arguably “better”. Still iPhones sell well.What are the several alternatives? Because the case hinges around iOS, to which there is only one alternative.
Because it's not a desktop computer. It is a mobile phone that can compute.They've already done this with Mac OS. I'm kind of at a loss as to why so many think a security model that works perfectly fine on the Mac wouldn't also be great on mobile.
They still are far from perfect.These operating systems are already thoroughly sandboxed and secure on a very fundamental level. iOS and Mac OS aren't Windows 95.
No one is disputing that there are multiple alternatives to an iPhone, not even the DOJ. Not sure how you think this fact is relevant here.My comment is about customers buying iPhones despite the walled garden, not about the case. There are several manufacturers selling smartphones that are very competitive, sometimes even cheaper, and arguably “better”. Still iPhones sell well.
There are alternatives to buying an iPhone.
You are kidding right? If I buy a Garmin watch, I would want my Garmin watch to access my healthdata. Why else would I buy a garmin watch and connect to my phone? In any case, before connecting, the phone will ask for each part of the health data if access can be given. And Access is given only when the user agrees.Some of the bullet points in the OP are ludicrous, specifically the watch.
Is the DOJ proposing that Apple has to allow a Garmin to tap into the Health app data? What protections would users have from that being sold off via 3rd parties then?
When does the Apple Watch start using the Android equivalent out of the box then?
So you admit you CHOSE to buy an iPhone over an Android phone, knowing it is a closed system and still bought it anyway and are now proclaiming that unhappy it is a closed system.You totally miss the point. I don't want an android anything thanks. I've made my choice and now I'm stuck in a monopoly - the Mac has it spot on - and apple make that still don't they? And the world is still turning. Don't worry, it will be fine and you will have more choice. Everyone wins, apart from Apple, but again, don't worry, they will cope.
exactly. people fail to understand Apple doesn't have total control of the market.
Here come the Apple defender squad.
Won’t somebody please think of the trillion dollar companies!
Both Macrumors and 9to5Mac don't actually have an article about US suing Apple but put up Apple’s response to it. I wonder how much influence Apple have over these two
Consumers not being able to choose a completely closed system is not a legal argument against anti-trust laws.So you admit you CHOSE to buy an iPhone over an Android phone, knowing it is a closed system and still bought it anyway and are now proclaiming that unhappy it is a closed system.
so you either bought it knowing what it was or didn’t do product research before buying.
and again your response shows that you don’t understand what people,saying.
people that arguing for apple to be left as is because we have chosen The iPhone because of what it is. A closed system.
people at the moment have the choice between open android or closed iOS.
even if we don’t use side loading or alt app stores then iOS would be an open system. Android is deemed an open systems even if don’t use side loading or alt app stores.
with the status quo then people that want an open mobile system can choose one. It is Android. People that want a closed mobile system can buy an iPhone.
now if we change and make iOS open then people that want an open mobile system can choose one, Android or iOS. People who want a closed mobile system can choose what exactly once iOS opened up.
there is no alternative closed mobile system available other then iOS.
So you can install any app on a mac.... and its not a infested domain of the world.
So............
Already proven thats not really what happens.
Elon Musk's money hard at work here.In its press release, the Justice Department highlighted some of the allegations:
- Blocking Innovative Super Apps. Apple has disrupted the growth of apps with broad functionality that would make it easier for consumers to switch between competing smartphone platforms.