Apple Sued Over Meltdown and Spectre in U.S. as iPhone Slowdown Lawsuits Now Total 45

[Tubamajuba]

Because Apple wilfully and deliberately used processors in their devices.

Steve Jobs would have never allowed this to happen. Yet another boneheaded decision by Tim Cook! Now pardon me while I buy yet another Apple product for the sole purpose of whining about it.

 

[jav6454]

Spectre and Meltdown suits are money grabs...

 

[lenard]

I hope apple gets what comes to them. No reason for Apple to be throttling hardware I own.

Wait until they take out the throttling code. Your iPhone comes to a complete stop with a weak battery.

 

[Mac-lover3]

"Despite one claim that Apple's patch for Spectre resulted in a significant performance decrease on one developer's iPhone 6s.."
Can't believe you guys quoted this idiot. He upgraded from 11.1.2 to 12.2.2 on an old iPhone 6 (not "s"!!) so obviously got hit by the CPU Throttling 'feature' introduced in 12.2.

My problem here is that we don’t know how much time was between the installing of the new OS and his benchmark. Ever felt that your phone is quite hot after an update and stays like this for 2-3 hours? It’s changing things under the hood or indexing something.

 

[BurgDog]

So how is any of this Apple's fault?

Because Apple sold something knowing it was faulty. Apple allegedly was aware of the hardware defect in the processors and sold products using it anyway.

 

[DoctorDoctor]

I hope apple gets what comes to them. No reason for Apple to be throttling hardware I own.

You may not like it but there is a reason they do it. Now Apple could have been upfront about it and let users have a choice of whether to use the feature or not.

 

[Solver]

Looks like a lot of ambulance chasers are going to be very busy during this silly season

 

[EdT]

So many lawyers desperate for attention.

Many will enter, none will win.

Since it’s all billable hours the lawyers win either way.

 

[sbailey4]

"Despite one claim that Apple's patch for Spectre resulted in a significant performance decrease on one developer's iPhone 6s.."
Can't believe you guys quoted this idiot. He upgraded from 11.1.2 to 12.2.2 on an old iPhone 6 (not "s"!!) so obviously got hit by the CPU Throttling 'feature' introduced in 12.2.

Close but not quite correct. iOS 10.2.1 had the throttling feature for the iP6 not 12.2.2 (which doesn't exist yet) or 11.2.2 or 11.2. But yeah ONE developers iPhone 6. lol

 

[BurgDog]

Wait until they take out the throttling code. Your iPhone comes to a complete stop with a weak battery.

Or design a phone that neither crashes nor slows down over specified service life of the battery and tell people when it is time to change the battery.

 

[Solver]

Apple slows down phones to prevent shutdowns - gets sued
Apple doesn't slow down phones and implements software fixes - gets sued

Ambulance chasers need to eat also.

 

[ghostface147]

So many lawyers desperate for attention.

Many will enter, none will win.

Or they will consolidate into a large class action.

 

[nviz22]

Apple is a part of the ARM consortium right? Lawyers want to hit Apple with a suit because other consortium members have a duty to protect their end users from malware or exploits?

 

[deanthedev]

I love how these lawsuits get filed without any evidence. They’re just HOPING to discover the smoking gun later on.

 

[mmomega]

Waiting for people to discover that using something consistently causes it to deteriorate.
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Because Apple sold something knowing it was faulty. Apple allegedly was aware of the hardware defect in the processors and sold products using it anyway.

On what day did Apple become aware of this issue?

 

[BurgDog]

On what day did Apple become aware of this issue?

That, of course, is the issue. When did Apple know?

 

[bodonnell202]

Apple deserves to get hit with lawsuits on the iPhone battery throttling fiasco due to their lack of transparency. In the case of Meltdown and Spectre the initial lack of transparency was exactly the right thing to do. Publicly disclosing the details of a major security vulnerability before the coders from the affecting companies have a chance to patch the vulnerability is not the right thing to do. This new class action law suit is completely baseless and should be thrown out.

 

[scrapesleon]

thirsty as much too bad they have nothing to get in return

 

[Kmart9419]

So how is any of this Apple's fault?

Apple knew about this flaw for months. Did not inform the general public and sold new hardware with this defect despite knowing months prior. Sounds similar to the equifax fiasco where they knew about a breach for months but didn't inform the public until several months later. By then, the damage was done.

Apple knowingly sold chips Apple designed with the spectre/meltdown flaw. Instead of correcting the issue that was known, Apple went ahead and released new products with the flawed chips and depended on software to correct the issue. Makes sense considering redesigning and re-manufacturing the chips will lead to massive delays and loss of $$$. But Apples secretive nature might come back to bite it in the ass one day.

 

[mmomega]

Or design a phone that neither crashes nor slows down over specified service life of the battery and tell people when it is time to change the battery.

Also get on creating tires that don't wear out over time.
Oil that never needs to be replaced.
Self cleaning air filters.
Joints that don't wear out due to use.
Shoes that never get dirty.

That, of course, is the issue. When did Apple know?

When someone says the words, this company knew and then continued to do this thing after they knew.
When did they know?

Don't even care that it is Apple, replace that name with someone that you perceive to have ever done anything wrong and you may say that they knew better.
When was it that they knew better and then continued.
Not even taking up for them, it was merely a question of the facts that someone knew about it. Oh really? When did they know?


You're also going with. I would have never known myself that they knew until they themselves told me that they knew.
So had they jsut kept the secret a secret, I would never have a reason to be butthurt because I wouldn't know what I wasn't told.
But since I was told.... F that, I'm mad now. Grrrrrr. So mad. I need to know everything... even though when I didn't know I wasn't mad and now that I do know I am mad. I just want to be mad. Grrr again.

 

[skinned66]

So what were these idiots going to do about it? Release a fix faster? A magic one that doesn't have to be solved by software? I think the disclosures were done fairly responsibly, and well the fix options for deployed chips are limited.

 

[macTW]

45 lawsuit parties soon to be disappointed.

 

[cmwade77]

Ok, there are two separate issues here (really this should have been two articles):

1. The vulnerabilities in the hardware.
2. Battery issues

For the first part, if Apple disclosed details about the vulnerability before some patches were ready, it is entirely possible that hackers could have used that information to cause even more damage and Apple would have been sued for that.

For the second part, Apple really is indeed in the wrong, if they had simply displayed a clear message letting the user know what was happening, why and how to fix it (getting a battery replacement), it wouldn't have been an issue.

 

[quaresma]

Yes, we throttle your phones. Why of course it is a feature!

2018 when people are okay with their phones being throttled.

Blind fanboys are okay with their phones being throttled... unbelievable

 

[DJKillerKeemstar]

This is absolutely ludicrous. Trying to sue because Apple didn't bring it up sooner? Wasn't it kept under wraps for so long so everyone could be patched before hackers had the chance to utilize these exploits to create more powerful malware?