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Apple Sued over 'Misleading' Advertising in Siri Depictions

HelveticaRoman said:
So White Star Line could have just claimed the Titanic was a beta?
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Nope. That would be like calling the iPhone 4s as a whole a Beta.

The Titanic worked for the most part. And had the crew not made some **** decisions about increasing speed etc it would have worked completely. The Titantic failure is more akin to someone jail breaking and unlocking their phone and then being made when it bricks on the new update cause they screwed with the firmware. They caused the damage by not sorting out exactly what was changing and what not to do before hand, just like the Titanic crew didn't do their research to find out the weather issues they might face so they could make appropriate course corrections, add more look out etc.
 
charlituna said:
Nope. That would be like calling the iPhone 4s as a whole a Beta.

The Titanic worked for the most part. And had the crew not made some **** decisions about increasing speed etc it would have worked completely. The Titantic failure is more akin to someone jail breaking and unlocking their phone and then being made when it bricks on the new update cause they screwed with the firmware. They caused the damage by not sorting out exactly what was changing and what not to do before hand, just like the Titanic crew didn't do their research to find out the weather issues they might face so they could make appropriate course corrections, add more look out etc.
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My head is spinning. But let's stay with the Titanic example:

Are you saying that Leonardo De Caprio and Kate Winslet can solve the Siri problems?
 
theheadguy said:
Will be interested to see how this works out. Apple does seem to be stretching it a bit with how great Siri is.

I won't say it's entirely useless, but I'll manually play the song, google the restaurant I'm looking for, etc., without waiting to see if Siri got it right.

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I can see this thrown out of court. This is not the first lawsuit over reliability of voice recognition technology. Apple EULA states that the voice recognition varies in quality from site to site.

Your mileage may vary.
 
Apple released beta Siri because they have nothing else

Probably even worse than 8 bit computers running ELISA in the early 1980s, but at least those CPM computers didn't advertise their products with ELISA. Two years ago the iPhone used to be a must have. Now it's Android and maybe Windows. Apple's deployments of Siri looks desperate.
 
GregAndonian said:
Since Siri is clearly labeled as a BETA software, I think suing Apple over the fact that it doesn't always work the way you want it to is going a bit too far.

A Final Cut Pro X editor, on the other hand, might have a case... ;)
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it does not matter if it is beta or not.


Its a matter of making false claims during advertising.
 
They should put "Doctor Mac" (the doctor game in emacs) into Siri. That would really get people to sue.

"Hi, I am a psychotherapist. Explain your problem."
"I have low self-esteem."
"Hmmm. Why do you think this is so?"
"I... just do."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes."
"Can you elaborate?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"I cannot."
"Why do you think this is so?"
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
 
samcraig said:
Really? The name Barack Obama doesn't exactly sounds like someone who would speak clearly to Siri based on your "thought" process. You'd be wrong though.

Open your mind a little. But in case you were posting this because you thought you were clever - you weren't.
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Actually, I was. I've had several friends use Siri who then slam it because it doesn't understand them. One is an Italian Immigrant, and the other two are Asians of Japanese and Chinese descent respectively.

And before you bring up the President of the USA, you should know that even people from Australia know who he is, and know he "sounds like someone who would speak clearly to Siri" based on "my thought process".

Umm, grow up.
 
Siri commercial tested by a journalist

A guy from HuffPost Tech asked Siri the same questions as in the commercial and Siri screwed up on almost all of them. And no, this guy is not an illegal immigrant (or any immigrant). Watch and have fun.

To win this lawsuit, all the plaintiff's lawyer has to do is to ask the judge to talk to Siri :D
 
I.Love.Apple said:
A guy from HuffPost Tech asked Siri the same questions as in the commercial and Siri screwed up on almost all of them. And no, this guy is not an illegal immigrant (or any immigrant). Watch and have fun.

To win this lawsuit, all the plaintiff's lawyer has to do is to ask the judge to talk to Siri :D
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That's a great video!
 
faroZ06 said:
They should put "Doctor Mac" (the doctor game in emacs) into Siri. That would really get people to sue.

"Hi, I am a psychotherapist. Explain your problem."
"I have low self-esteem."
"Hmmm. Why do you think this is so?"
"I... just do."
"Are you sure?"
"Yes."
"Can you elaborate?"
"No."
"Why not?"
"I cannot."
"Why do you think this is so?"
"FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUU"
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Well that's what the ELISA program was all about. Exactly the same questions. And I think Siri is more or less the same. The perception of AI is 45 years old while the perception of voice recognition technology is at least 15 yeas old. I don't care if they have new voice canceling chips and more CPU power, at the end of the 1990s my Philips cell phone could receive voice commands. Call this person, do that... and for some reason it used to work most of the time, even when people with foreign accent were using it.
 
allbrokeup said:
Actually, I was. I've had several friends use Siri who then slam it because it doesn't understand them. One is an Italian Immigrant, and the other two are Asians of Japanese and Chinese descent respectively.

And before you bring up the President of the USA, you should know that even people from Australia know who he is, and know he "sounds like someone who would speak clearly to Siri" based on "my thought process".

Umm, grow up.
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What did I write that indicates that I need to "grow up?" Looks to me like you got called out on making a stereotyped response to the man in the lawsuit and have issues admitting it. That's cool. Your words in the post speak for themselves. I won't point them out again nor that your example above in the post I'm quoting makes little sense in helping your "argument."

Have a great day.
 
flynndean said:
My experience of Siri in the UK can pretty much be summarised by this video
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Yep that about sums it up. My beef isn't with the voice recognition though which isn't actually that bad it's the fact they haven't bothered to tie up with a company database in the UK and I can't understand why the maps don't work.

I'm a Mac fan but whilst the lawsuit is a bit pointless Siri really isn't fit to be marketed as the main feature of the 4s.

It does seem to be good for setting alarms and the location reminder is quite clever.

I guess most of the people on here saying how great it is are based in the US.

Even Siri agrees she's useless:

"You're useless"

I am?

"Yes"

I thought so.

:)
 
It would be interesting to see how Siri responds when presented with a copy of the voices used in the television commercials. Does it only respond to Apple's own voices, or is there something wrong with how it interprets the context of the input? I've tried other voice control software from Android OS, Apple's own OS X voice assisted controls, and third-party application running on Microsoft Windows and OS X, all with similar results. The software isn't sophisticated enough to understand the spoken word. There are no AI routines running contextual algorithms to check the vocal input against linguistic sentence structures and inflections; it's all keyword matching and guesswork.
 
out of all the people I know that have an iPhone 4S only 1 uses Siri and she works for Apple

at it's present stage it sucks and Apple should of just not advertized it as being amazing

also that rock god commercial is pathetic
 
I hope this pinhead loses. When I say to Siri, "Search the web for 'How to play London Calling on the guitar'", and "Search the web for 'How do I play a B-Minor 9th chord on the guitar", I get perfect results at the top of the list. And if I didn't that would be Google's fault, not Apple's. It seems that this lawsuit is more about "deceptive" editing in a commercial, for the sake of brevity. By that logic, if I see a Mercedes commercial where someone opens a car door, and then cuts to them driving away, I could sue them because my car doesn't automagically buckle my seat belt, start the car, and whisk me away in the correct direction. Because I didn't see the actor do all of those things in the commercial? Stupid.
 
bry2k said:
I hope this pinhead loses. When I say to Siri, "Search the web for 'How to play London Calling on the guitar'", and "Search the web for 'How do I play a B-Minor 9th chord on the guitar", I get perfect results at the top of the list. And if I didn't that would be Google's fault, not Apple's. It seems that this lawsuit is more about "deceptive" editing in a commercial, for the sake of brevity. By that logic, if I see a Mercedes commercial where someone opens a car door, and then cuts to them driving away, I could sue them because my car doesn't automagically buckle my seat belt, start the car, and whisk me away in the correct direction. Because I didn't see the actor do all of those things in the commercial? Stupid.
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Your analogy would be valid if there wasn't anything ever like a car for the masses yet. Siri, for most - is something they've never experienced before. A car is something most have. Expectations and understanding of the technology is different.
 
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