!@#$y behavior on Prosser's part, regardless of how the planning happened he KNEW he was looking at protected info & should not have been. Lawsuit looks justified from where I sit.
Your understanding of the law and how it works is deficient at best, and by citing an unrelated case doesn’t make your view any less deficient, quite the opposite. I wouldn't be coming to you for legal advice if this is your understanding of the law. It's clear in this case that both parties had first hand knowledge of what was being schemed. The handling of stolen property isn't nullified just because someone else gave you the stolen items. Defending this isn't working, let the real adults deal with it instead. Apple have every legal right to protect their IP. if they didn't this kind of crap would become commonplace and Apple wouldn’t have a business model. Now if you still believe in your flawed premise, let my friend steal your phone, then pass on all your private information to me to post on social media if you think it's not illegal to do so.You should ask Congress that: it's their statement I quoted.
Said that, it's not uncommon at all that a Supreme Court's decision in a particular case ends up having profound implications on a host of different cases.
There is no way MacRumors or any publisher can argue that when they obtain leaked information they don't reasonably know the info was originally obtained improperly. It's irrelevant wethere they know the leaker or not.
Even if they did, it will probably still scare other employes that might be interested to leak information or not follow protocalls not to do so. Which in a way is a bigger win for Apple, as this leak has already happened. I think a lot of this is to stop the next leak rather than punishing this one.I very much doubt Apple will win this one. The court doesn't care about Apple information that Apple thinks are secrets but a YouTuber has found and presented in a series of vague proxy demonstrations. He's not an Apple employee and has no contracts with Apple.
Damn there was too many iOS 19/26 concepts that I’m not sure it really affected Apple.
Earlier this year, YouTuber Jon Prosser shared multiple videos showing off what he claimed to be re-created renderings of what was then presumed to be called iOS 19 and which was eventually unveiled by Apple as iOS 26 at WWDC in June.
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In his first video back in January, Prosser showed off a Camera app redesign with a simpler set of buttons for moving between photo and video modes, and he followed that up with a March episode of his Genius Bar podcast where he showed off the Messages app, complete with round navigation buttons at the top and rounded corners around the keyboard.
And he wrapped things up with an April video that gave a more complete look at the Liquid Glass redesign that ultimately debuted in iOS 26, with rounder, glass-like interface elements, pill-shaped tab bars at the bottom of certain Apple apps, and more.
While the Camera app redesign didn't exactly match what Apple unveiled for iOS 26, the general idea was correct and much of what else Prosser showed was pretty close to spot on, and Apple clearly took notice as the company filed a lawsuit today (Scribd link) against Prosser and Michael Ramacciotti for misappropriation of trade secrets.
Apple's complaint outlines what it claims is the series of events that led to the leaks, which centered around a development iPhone in the possession of Ramacciotti's friend and Apple employee Ethan Lipnik. According to Apple, Prosser and Ramacciotti plotted to access Lipnik's phone, acquiring his passcode and then using location-tracking to determine when he "would be gone for an extended period." Prosser reportedly offered financial compensation to Ramacciotti in return for assisting with accessing the development iPhone.
Apple says Ramacciotti accessed Lipnik's development iPhone and made a FaceTime call to Prosser, showing off iOS 26 running on the development iPhone, and that Prosser recorded the call with screen capture tools. Prosser then shared those videos with others and used them to make re-created renders of iOS 26 for his videos.
Lipnik's phone contained a "significant amount of additional Apple trade secret information that has not yet been publicly disclosed," and Apple says it does not know how much of that information is in the possession of Prosser and Ramacciotti.
In order to protect its trade secrets, Apple has filed the lawsuit to request an injunction against further disclosure of Apple's confidential trade secret information and is seeking damages over the misappropriation of them.
Lipnik's employment with Apple has already been terminated over his failure to follow the company's policies to protect development and unreleased devices and software. Lipnik also failed to disclose the breach to Apple once he learned of it through others who recognized his apartment in the recorded FaceTime call, with Apple learning of the details from an anonymous email.
Update 8:55 pm: In replies to our tweet about this story, Prosser takes issue with Apple's presentation of the events, claiming he was "unaware of the situation playing out" and saying he is "looking forward to being able to speak to Apple about it."
Article Link: Apple Sues Jon Prosser Over iOS 26 Leaks
Even if they did, it will probably still scare other employes that might be interested to leak information or not follow protocalls not to do so. Which in a way is a bigger win for Apple, as this leak has already happened. I think a lot of this is to stop the next leak rather than punishing this one.
He isn't a reporter, he's a YouTuber. BIG DIFFERENCESuing a news reporter? Good luck.
Apple clearly have a case, they've filed an affidavit so they cannot make any false claims on it, that would be illegal, like stealing a phone with protected IP on it. They must have all the evidence to expose this scumbag which is why it's taken this long. Your feelings don't get to dictate if a case if worthy or not, only the facts do, and so far the facts are damning.Exactly this. There’s so much precedent on this. Apple is just trying to scare leakers and I don’t necessarily blame them, but they don’t have a case here. I hope if they actually take this to trial, he countersues and get some money out of them.
I know this is not the popular opinion with the Apple 🪭 community, but it’s the truth. I absolutely love Apple products but if a company is wrong, they’re wrong.
It's difficult to prove that he knows what he's doing.What does that have to do with anything?
Apple clearly have a case, they've filed an affidavit so they cannot make any false claims on it, that would be illegal, like stealing a phone with protected IP on it. They must have all the evidence to expose this scumbag which is why it's taken this long. Your feelings don't get to dictate if a case if worthy or not, only the facts do, and so far the facts are damning.
Good thing courts decide, and not you.Apple clearly have a case, they've filed an affidavit so they cannot make any false claims on it, that would be illegal, like stealing a phone with protected IP on it. They must have all the evidence to expose this scumbag which is why it's taken this long. Your feelings don't get to dictate if a case if worthy or not, only the facts do, and so far the facts are damning.
Just because someone filed a lawsuit, doesn’t mean they have a case. Speaking of feelings, calling someone a “scumbag” because you feel they did something wrong to one of your favorite brands is pretty strong feelings. People get emotionally attached to the Apple brand so if anybody says or does anything they feel is negative to that brand it’s like you’re talking bad about their religion. I like Apple products, but I don’t worship Apple.Apple clearly have a case, they've filed an affidavit so they cannot make any false claims on it, that would be illegal, like stealing a phone with protected IP on it. They must have all the evidence to expose this scumbag which is why it's taken this long. Your feelings don't get to dictate if a case if worthy or not, only the facts do, and so far the facts are damning.
You have never experienced Court in real life, have you? Apple is no saint and people/corporations lie to get what they want.Apple clearly have a case, they've filed an affidavit so they cannot make any false claims on it, that would be illegal, like stealing a phone with protected IP on it. They must have all the evidence to expose this scumbag which is why it's taken this long. Your feelings don't get to dictate if a case if worthy or not, only the facts do, and so far the facts are damning.
The Apple employee has already been terminated with extreme prejudice!Yeah, this goes beyond reporting leaks. This is making plans to steel corporate secrets for financial gain. I think Prosser may be in some real trouble on this one given the lengths he went to gain the secrets. In fact I wouldn’t be surprised if the Apple employee wasn’t in on it, also, but they’re protecting him. It all sounds pretty fishy.
Really? Seriously? First, I don’t think he will pay anything. I think this is posturing by a giant bully! Apple is losing all over so they have to appear strong somewhere. Realistically, I don’t see anything happening to Prosser unless he actually broke into the employee’s home. I don’t believe that. He’s been getting information for a long time which may be from this person. And Prosser wasn’t even the person inside the home. I see this as Prosser burning a bridge and damaging his brand but the employee is the one to really fear the trade secrets bit. I don’t see how a non employee who doesn’t actually steal it can be convicted. And Prosser didn’t even share the video on his channel. He made a design that appeared like the iOS not iOS itself. And Liquid Ass is essentially that - a really poorly thought out design that looks amazing but doesn’t function well. TouchBar anyone?
I very much doubt Apple will win this one. The court doesn't care about Apple information that Apple thinks are secrets but a YouTuber has found and presented in a series of vague proxy demonstrations. He's not an Apple employee and has no contracts with Apple.
Your understanding of the law and how it works is deficient at best, and by citing an unrelated case doesn’t make your view any less deficient, quite the opposite. I wouldn't be coming to you for legal advice if this is your understanding of the law.
It's clear in this case that both parties had first hand knowledge of what was being schemed.
The handling of stolen property isn't nullified just because someone else gave you the stolen items.
Defending this isn't working, let the real adults deal with it instead. Apple have every legal right to protect their IP. if they didn't this kind of crap would become commonplace and Apple wouldn’t have a business model.
Now if you still believe in your flawed premise, let my friend steal your phone, then pass on all your private information to me to post on social media if you think it's not illegal to do so.
No, I mean the dude they're suing is ******.Hard disagree. Trade secrets and early reveals can make or break companies. Did you even read the article? The lengths these two went to is borderline criminal.
I worded my post incorrectly. I was referring to Prosser, not Apple.If you read the article, this is actual corporate espionage, not "news reporting".