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Apple Sues Jon Prosser Over iOS 26 Leaks

Who cares. Apple you didn’t have any damages cause you copied vista and it’s already being walked back.

Jesus grow up and innovate Apple. Exactly why I haven’t bothered buying more from you and ordered an android fold. Breaking out and trying a brand that can stand on its own and innovate.
 
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menist said:
It may not look exactly like it, but the glass ui concept already happen back then with Cydia winterboard, running on lower iOS and iPhone's with 512mb of ram lol.
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No, but also it doesn’t matter.
 
The hypocrisy in this thread is crazy especially on a rumors site. Do you all just want made up stuff from places like Digitimes and other terrible outlets so you can argue into the void about the most dumbest rumors? Prosser has been pretty on point that last couple years with hardware and software so Apple suing him means he’s right about more than the others.
 
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BarrettF77 said:
Who cares. Apple you didn’t have any damages cause you copied vista and it’s already being walked back.

Jesus grow up and innovate Apple. Exactly why I haven’t bothered buying more from you and ordered an android fold. Breaking out and trying a brand that can stand on its own and innovate.
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Considering Tim Cook’s expertise is in logistics, I think innovating today in Apple has become harder than before. Safe business wins the day so shareholders can keep receiving predictable dividends.
 
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Shirasaki said:
Considering Tim Cook’s expertise is in logistics, I think innovating today in Apple has become harder than before. Safe business wins the day so shareholders can keep receiving predictable dividends.
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And thus the erosion in certain areas is going to be difficult to surmount. Apple is a sitting duck on certain fronts, just as companies before them that had the bottom fall out on them. As in your signature, there are aspects of Apple’s history that are being ignored as a result of arrogance, with their massive cash reserve. There is this narrative that they have built an ecosystem and diversified their business. I see it differently. Their wearables, services, and cachet as a brand are centred on the iPhone. Including their Google search default revenue. The more stale and disappointing in certain areas the iPhone becomes, the larger the part of the company is at risk of slow decay a la 90’s Apple. No, Apple is not doomed, but Tim is not the guy to be at the helm for any ascendency beyond the predictable.
 
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blairh said:
Even if someone at Apple is leaking to Gurman that pales in comparison to this nonsense from Prosser.
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Understand, Apple's telling of the story is meant to paint their argument in the strongest light possible. Furthermore, you are only able to say this because they decided to pursue legal action and their narrative was made public in court filings.

Mark Gurman clearly has moles within their corporate hierarchy who feed him information and has some supply chain moles to boot. Apple won't touch him because he works for Bloomberg. Bloomberg could just decide to start publishing things to their subscribers that cast Apple in a more negative light to Wall Street and other investors, ya know? And how could Apple fight that if Bloomberg is posting factual information or sufficiently covering their ass journalistically?

Ming Chi Kuo works for a large, fairly prominent Taiwanese firm and he operates in subsidiary that seemingly does supply chain corporate espionage as a line of business. He probably can't be touched because Apple is so dependent on good relations with the Taiwanese government.
 
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Understand, Apple's telling of the story is meant to paint their argument in the strongest light possible. Furthermore, you are only able to say this because they decided to pursue legal action and their narrative was made public in court filings.

Mark Gurman clearly has moles within their corporate hierarchy who feed him information and has some supply chain moles to boot. Apple won't touch him because he works for Bloomberg. Bloomberg could just decide to start publishing things to their subscribers that cast Apple in a more negative light to Wall Street and other investors, ya know? And how could Apple fight that if Bloomberg is posting factual information or sufficiently covering their ass journalistically?

Ming Chi Kuo works for a large, fairly prominent Taiwanese firm and he operates in subsidiary that seemingly does supply chain corporate espionage as a line of business. He probably can't be touched because Apple is so dependent on good relations with the Taiwanese government.
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Being fed information is completely different than what Prosser was doing here. Let’s make that crystal clear mate.
 
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As long as there’s interest in Apple, money will be made on rumours and leaks. Sadly, it’s why paparazzi still gets paid by sites like TMZ exist.

People are curious about things and people they like. Unfortunately, it’s fallen to the depths of sabotage and property theft.

I’m old enough to remember leaks were simply photos of boxes being unloaded at an elevator at MacWorld!
 
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Being fed information is completely different than what Prosser was doing here. Let’s make that crystal clear mate.
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Prosser's comments suggests that he believes that he did not coordinate the corporate espionage. If true - and we have no reason to believe either party's facts at face values - then what is the difference besides Prosser not having large corporate shielding for his acceptance of corporate espionage information?

Apple in the courts is not an outfit that operates in good faith and high character. A federal judge essentially suggested as much recently. Furthermore, you can look at their behavior around the world lately and surmise that Apple behaves in bad faith in these arenas. I have no reason to believe anything Apple legal counsel writes or says within these contexts. They will be absolute scumbags and try to bend facts to do whatever serves their petty interests. Prosser bruised their ego by scooping something they hoped to be a big wow moment and they're going to try to bend the facts however they need to get their retribution.
 
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Prosser's comments suggests that he believes that he did not coordinate the corporate espionage. If true - and we have no reason to believe either party's facts at face values - then what is the difference besides Prosser not having large corporate shielding for his acceptance of corporate espionage information?

Apple in the courts is not an outfit that operates in good faith and high character. A federal judge essentially suggested as much recently. Furthermore, you can look at their behavior around the world lately and surmise that Apple behaves in bad faith in these arenas. I have no reason to believe anything Apple legal counsel writes or says within these contexts. They will be absolute scumbags and try to bend facts to do whatever serves their petty interests. Prosser bruised their ego by scooping something they hoped to be a big wow moment and they're going to try to bend the facts however they need to get their retribution.
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Prosser has a history of being a scumbag. Look it up if you don’t know already. I don’t believe him for a second. In the end Apple is going to cook him and his career.
 
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rgwebb said:
Understand, Apple's telling of the story is meant to paint their argument in the strongest light possible. Furthermore, you are only able to say this because they decided to pursue legal action and their narrative was made public in court filings.

Mark Gurman clearly has moles within their corporate hierarchy who feed him information and has some supply chain moles to boot. Apple won't touch him because he works for Bloomberg. Bloomberg could just decide to start publishing things to their subscribers that cast Apple in a more negative light to Wall Street and other investors, ya know? And how could Apple fight that if Bloomberg is posting factual information or sufficiently covering their ass journalistically?

Ming Chi Kuo works for a large, fairly prominent Taiwanese firm and he operates in subsidiary that seemingly does supply chain corporate espionage as a line of business. He probably can't be touched because Apple is so dependent on good relations with the Taiwanese government.
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I don’t even think there’s that much to it. To my knowledge Gurman and Ming Chi don’t put out renders or anything visual, it’s all verbal which is hard to really combat. Prosser straight up exposed the iPhone Air, iOS 26 and possibly the iPhone Pro for the world to see and is accurate so far! That’s what Apple is probably annoyed with.
 
I think this guy is in trouble… It's one thing for the various “reported as being seen in renders" or “I have actively seen this in use” comments. But in his case, the great lengths they went to? That's the kind of thing that can put you (not the POTUS, of course) in jail, let alone get you fined...
 
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Presser is complicit in motivating others to do what they did. While it may not be illegal, he’s being sued personally, not prosecuted and Apple has every right to sue him for potential harm to Apple.

/popcorn eating GIF
 
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m1mini said:
hopefully the damages will exceed $1 million, it’s the only way to teach these people to respect the commercial rights of companies.
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Really? Seriously? First, I don’t think he will pay anything. I think this is posturing by a giant bully! Apple is losing all over so they have to appear strong somewhere. Realistically, I don’t see anything happening to Prosser unless he actually broke into the employee’s home. I don’t believe that. He’s been getting information for a long time which may be from this person. And Prosser wasn’t even the person inside the home. I see this as Prosser burning a bridge and damaging his brand but the employee is the one to really fear the trade secrets bit. I don’t see how a non employee who doesn’t actually steal it can be convicted. And Prosser didn’t even share the video on his channel. He made a design that appeared like the iOS not iOS itself. And Liquid Ass is essentially that - a really poorly thought out design that looks amazing but doesn’t function well. TouchBar anyone?
 
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Kinda 50/50 on this. First, curious to see how the damages are calculated in this case. The "leaks" have created free press and PR around the release and a hype in the tech world. If anything, Apple has won here. Second, I don't follow Jon or his videos, but from what I have seen shared on MacRumors and other news outlets, the design shared by him is very different from what the actual release turned out to be. Of course, it is possible that these leaks look like what the design used to be earlier in the development stages, but, what I am saying, it that it didn't ruin the "surprise" from the keynote, as the final design shown was anyways different.
 
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Suing a news reporter? Good luck.
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Exactly this. There’s so much precedent on this. Apple is just trying to scare leakers and I don’t necessarily blame them, but they don’t have a case here. I hope if they actually take this to trial, he countersues and get some money out of them.

I know this is not the popular opinion with the Apple 🪭 community, but it’s the truth. I absolutely love Apple products but if a company is wrong, they’re wrong.
 
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