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Apple Sues Jon Prosser Over iOS 26 Leaks
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It sounds like you’re passionate about your work. Good for you. I hope it brings you much joy. While you enjoy yourself take a look around and you’ll see a pay to play system. It is often a far cry from the lady justice interpretation.
based on the facts Apple presented, I do think Prosser's way out of line on this one. That doesn't mean we don't live in a pay-to-play legal system, however.
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Still shady. Y'all are making some seriously morally questionable statements here. Yikes.
And this case isn't a first amendment issue, it's a civil issue.
We're just clarifying the law—not making moral judgements.
Morality and legality sometimes are two very different things, whether we like it or not.
In what way has this hurt Apple's business? what is the material damage? Someone isn't going to buy the next iPhone because the software leaked? They announce the software months before the hardware goes on sale anyway.
Way to kramer into this discussion without having read the article or any of the posts here. Everything you're asking has been covered.In what way has this hurt Apple's business? what is the material damage? Someone isn't going to buy the next iPhone because the software leaked? They announce the software months before the hardware goes on sale anyway.
Oh Jon you should have just played it safe like Gurman
“Apple will launch a new MacBook - maybe in the first half of 2026, maybe the second half. If not then maybe 2027.”
“Apple will launch a new MacBook - maybe in the first half of 2026, maybe the second half. If not then maybe 2027.”
Leaks get people talking about a product, which makes them more likely to want to buy the product. This is very valuable to a company as it’s often more effective than expensive marketing campaigns. If you disagree then why are you on a site called Mac Rumours? Trade secrets being leaked is only an issue if someone is interested in using them, and doing so in a way that takes profit away from the company. That isn’t the case here. It’s been a while since Apple came up with anything truly original or interesting. They are all about incremental updates.
I volunteer my time at no cost advocating for those who can't afford the high cost of hiring lawyers. I studied constitutional law in my own time at my own cost to help others less fortunate. I am passionate because our rights are being eroded by the day. I loath corporations who use and abuse people for money but when it comes to the law it's not about opinion, it's about facts. As much as I dislike Apple these days because of what they have become, they have rights to protect IP because good hard working people sweat their time and effort to create these things, so the individuals deserve for their work to be respected and protected. My daughter is a creator and everyone expects things to be free and it's damn hard to be an independent and make a good living, so it's a tough gig. She's also had her work pilfered but didn't have million dollar lawyers to fight for her. When self promoting posers go to unlawful lengths to "be first", it becomes a cancer in the space. Who will create anything if nobodies look to profit by theft from the work of others? I'm advocating for the little guy in this, not a billion dollar corporation. Those who create great things deserve our respect and protection. I don't care about the rest.
I hope none of you end up on a jury. “Your honor we find the defendant guilty on all charges, based on the evidence of “Apple said so””.
Apple executives are already on bad terms with judges for straight out lying in court. I own every Apple device category there (except Vision Pro) is and their sub brands like Beats… but being a fan doesn’t stop me from having a level head.
Things sound pretty sketchy. Everything on Apple devices is supposed to be end to end encrypted… but since Apple doesn’t open source its shipped software, there is no way to verify this. So we have to take their word that they were tipped off by an “anonymous email”. Has anybody ever known a major corporation to read an email? Let alone an anonymous email? This sounds like a hit job.
The other sketch part is.. Gurman is the most accurate leaker and has by far more leaks than anyone else in the industry. Yet Apple has never gone after him. All speculation, but not speculation that is new or started by me, but Gurman seems to be on Apple’s payroll, which is deceptive as heck. Gurman was so confident on the minor details Jon got wrong. He knew exactly what was up and Apple isn’t even blinking at him.
At the very least it seems Apple is making some of this up, as anyone familiar with Jon knows he has been speaking out for years against people paying for leaks, and letting people know that practice is illegal. I highly doubt he would be committing the crime he has preached against, but in this world you never can tell, so lets see the evidence before jumping to conclusions. Apple says a lot of stuff, but their legal talk has been in murky waters, especially recently, so I would definitely let this play out before fan boying.
Apple executives are already on bad terms with judges for straight out lying in court. I own every Apple device category there (except Vision Pro) is and their sub brands like Beats… but being a fan doesn’t stop me from having a level head.
Things sound pretty sketchy. Everything on Apple devices is supposed to be end to end encrypted… but since Apple doesn’t open source its shipped software, there is no way to verify this. So we have to take their word that they were tipped off by an “anonymous email”. Has anybody ever known a major corporation to read an email? Let alone an anonymous email? This sounds like a hit job.
The other sketch part is.. Gurman is the most accurate leaker and has by far more leaks than anyone else in the industry. Yet Apple has never gone after him. All speculation, but not speculation that is new or started by me, but Gurman seems to be on Apple’s payroll, which is deceptive as heck. Gurman was so confident on the minor details Jon got wrong. He knew exactly what was up and Apple isn’t even blinking at him.
At the very least it seems Apple is making some of this up, as anyone familiar with Jon knows he has been speaking out for years against people paying for leaks, and letting people know that practice is illegal. I highly doubt he would be committing the crime he has preached against, but in this world you never can tell, so lets see the evidence before jumping to conclusions. Apple says a lot of stuff, but their legal talk has been in murky waters, especially recently, so I would definitely let this play out before fan boying.
Not a single post in this thread that evidences how this has harmed Apple's business.
Someone should ask where WSJ get their Apple 'leaks' from...
Yeah Apple 'states' a lot of things. They advertised a new phone on the back of features that didn't exist last year.
It's been covered that possible breaking and entering, theft, etc. have to be prosecuted, no matter whether you feel it hurts anyone's business.
I hope you don't end up on a jury. "Your honor we finde the defendant not guilty on all charges, based on our feelings on Apple's behavior in unrelated situations".
Your whole post is an ad hominem. It's nice that you feel a certain way, but that doesn't change anything about the situation.
Legally the only relevant question is the objective merits of the case. Whether you or I like like one side more than the other is completely irrelevant.
As much as it’s cool to see what’s coming, Apple has said it’s time to make an example of those leaking information. I really don’t blame them
I wonder if that has anything to do with the state of AI/Siri.
After reading through most of the legal documentation it seems they are making an example of this guy.
Yes, as a matter of fact. I have had several corporate offices read my email to them.
Herein lies the difference between Gurman and this incident with Prosser is in how the leak is done. If sanctioned by Apple, then it is legal and of promotional value. However, once it is made known to Apple that they had an employee who 'lost control' of a device that he very likely 'signed' for, especially in what appears to be through deception, and that device, once in the hands of another, was used for FaceTime and ultimately that FaceTime were published on the web...Apple had little choice but to respond in the manner they did.
I would venture that it is no more illegal than paying an advertising firm to do promo work. If this action were truly illegal, then we would scarcely find influencers on YouTube, or reviews on Amazon.
Few things compare to the SCO - Linux/IBM suit; that was a hell of a battle. I don't know one damn soul that was pulling for SCO. Then there was the Samsung/SK Hynix/Micron price fixing suit. Let's not leave out RAMBUS and their litigious nature. Not to mention Quacom. Technology companies have damn near more lawyers than they do employees.
Nothing has to be civilly prosecuted.
Breaking and entering and theft are not civil. Additionally, it has been addressed upthread that shareholders could sue Apple if it doesn't protect its trade secrets by suing those who breach them.
But this thread is about Apple civilly suing. It’s not about a criminal prosecution.