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Apple Supplier Foxconn to Build $270 Million Plant in Vietnam, Likely for MacBook and iPad
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A voice of reason?! =)
Lol, it’s kinda sad & embarrassing that the haughty, entitled commentary here is centered around how when having a logistical conversation about what makes most sense for building a new factory... companies should throw all logic & thought out in favor of the question: “is there some COMPLETELY unrelated political or economic crisis going on in some country that we can somehow sleazily pretend has anything whatsoever to do with our business?”.
Foxcom and Apple are addicted to cheap labor so building a factory in Vietnam, where regular worker is paid $100 to $200 a month compared to thousands for US workers, is obvious.
Yes, in Wisconsin. It was a complete clusterf***. Trump got his golden shovel pic, the people of Wisconsin built roads, used eminent domain to evict homeowners, and levied taxes. Foxconn never built anything remotely resembling what they promised. They changed their story on what they would build/do, how many people they would employ, etc.
I remember looking into the money behind all that, and remember seeing it being more financially sound for Foxconn to not proceed than to actually do anything there. A ****** deal made by politicians that don't understand how to make the finances of a deal align with their preferred outcome.
please tell me you're both kidding right? right??
Alphaswift you really believed him? Unless Apple exec's are symbolicly digging up earth I don't believe it.
Actually, cost of production in China has been increasing for the past many years. Many companies have been thinking of diversifying outside China. Planing for factories don't happen overnight, so many of these would've already in the pipeline. US' trade war only hasten those decisions and actions.
And yes, in the end, actual motivation remains to maximize profit.
In the long run, yes. It could. Their working, environmental, and political practices place risk on these companies leading them to leave. If China cleaned up their practices (working conditions are likely lowest hanging fruit), there would be less risk - possibly bringing back more investment.
There's a bit of truth in there, but it's not the whole picture.
The way factories are set up in China, their volume and ability to churn things out quickly 24/7, is simply not possible to duplicate in the US, no matter the cost. The work ethics of the Chinese are also vastly different than Americans, and those are not things you can just "train" people for.
The above is a contradiction of terms. Making MacBooks in a Foxcon factory is low-skill and low-wage. It is right up there with working in a Tson chicken processing plant.
Even building cars is "gone". A new car today has less than 200 labor hours in it.
The days of being able to buy a house and support a family by working in a factory and doing manual labor are gone, gone, and gone. Even in China, Foxcon jobs are considered low-pay and "dead-end"
In the United States the way to get a high paying job is to have a skill that is in short supply. In other works no one will ever again be paid well to operated a paint spray gun in a car factory, this is done now by robots. ame goes for welding. So they guys who design and program the robots make a good 6-figure income and there is a huge demand for this
Tell your local governments to not give money to Foxconn to move 200,000 minimum wage jobs from Vietnam to the US. We don't need that. Tell your local government to offer free university tuition to locals residents.
The good jobs going forward all will require some years of education. The renewable energy sector, automated transportation, biomedical technology and 100 other things pay well. Assembling computers will never pay well.
Manufacturing isn’t only about cheap labor. China and East Asia have many people who can and are willing to do skilled manufacturing in electronics- there is no comparable ecosystem in Latin America. Also, many countries in Latin America and not very business friendly- or stable. It’s not Foxconn’s job to stop the gangs in Honduras, it’s the Honduran government. You have to offer something more than just cheap labor.
That's actually been proven to be false multiple times. As an example, US car factories were shown to be far more productive than the equivalent Japanese factories.
This "asian exceptionalism" is total crap. There are plenty of lazy people in Asia, just like there are plenty of lazy Americans.
The real reason it's easier to do stuff in third-world Asia is because you can bribe people. There are also fewer regulations, which can be good (it's easier to build a factory) and bad (pollution). Also you can hit workers to make them perform better. They are only one generation off the farms, after all.
What has been proven false? Show me proof where you can make a factory with dorms like in China in the US. Show me if there are any US factories that can respond in product changes as quick as the Foxconn factory (eg. When Jobs wanted the iPhone screen to be glass instead of plastic last minute). Seriously, show me. We are not comparing automobiles nor Japanese factories. You are claiming false while showing completely different thing altogether.
Even India, Vietnam, and Indonesia are not up to the level of the factories in China. If they did, Apple would've moved shop already. And if the US can do it, we wouldn't even have this conversation.
Samsung bailed out of China and moved to Vietnam to manufacturer Galaxy phones a few year ago. The people in Vietnam think Samsung Galaxy is not a premium brand phone because they are made locally.
Even for labor they prefer any Asian country to maximize profits. This company is pumping American jobs abroad like cray!
Except they ar
FYI they do whatever they want in the West. Meanwhile the government only focuses on Facebook and google because they affect politics. What about Apple exporting jobs?
And Tim Apple keeps getting rich off the poor.
alphaswift said:
Wasn't Trump touting some Foxconn plant to be built in the midwest somewhere? Whatever happened to that?
Like the Chinese do, they lie and cheat to get ahead.
Wasn't Trump touting some Foxconn plant to be built in the midwest somewhere? Whatever happened to that?
Like the Chinese do, they lie and cheat to get ahead.