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Apple Supplier Sony Debuts 21-Megapixel Image Sensor With Ultra Fast Autofocus, 4K HDR Video
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The picture quality and low light sensitivity of iPhone cameras has not improved since iPhone 5 which uses a 5MP sensor. The only improvements are panoramic mode, high speed shot, true tone. But they are not due to the SONY image sensors Apple used.
afaik the iPhone 5 uses a 1/3.2" 8MP sensor - 1.4micron pixels
the 5s increased sensorsize while keeping the same Mp count to 1/3" resulting in bigger pixels and thus better low light performance
I thought about trying to make this point, but felt it would be futile here. There is a reason a camera like this one, which costs $6,500, is only 16MP.... because there are other things that are more important than megapixels:
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The chorus of "I don't want 4k video/21-megapixels/optical zoom on my iPhone" reminds me of all the folks who just a few months ago were saying "I don't want a bigger screen/phablet/jumbo iPhone."
Bottom line: If Apple makes it for us, we'll want it.
I believe 4K video would be very cool. However I would still like an iPhone the size of the iPhone4s and thinner if possible
I own an iPhone 6 because I want to remain current and therefore I have no other choice
nope, in 7 or even 7s
Nope. 6s. I know because I'm in Apple R&D.
No. That's how Macrumors has worded the article. Sony still makes the finest video and other equipment on the planet.
iOS 9 will make sure that if you have 16Gb storage, your camera will automatically downgrade the image quality to 1080p...lol
Apple never gave a number for low light sensitivity. In 2011 I used iPhones 4 to take some indoor pictures. Outside is sunshine. The people's faces are comparatively dark. When I turn the focus on the faces, I can make the faces brighter and clear to see. Today with the new iPhones it seems I can not make this kind shots.
And what? As usual Apple won't use it for some time. Maybe 5 years from now iPhone will have a 21MP camera. And that's a maybe.
You know high end android phones have been on 13MP by now. I know resolution is not the whole story, but other OEMs uses whatever available at hand.
You know high end android phones have been on 13MP by now. I know resolution is not the whole story, but other OEMs uses whatever available at hand.
... I can only assume this paragraph was the result of an extremely low-effort Google search.
Hint 1: Look at the spec sheet for that sensor.
Hint 2: Look at that website.
That assumes that noise is some sort inaccuracy, which only some of it is.
Image noise comes predominately not from inaccurate measurement (read noise) but from too-low-a-sample noise (photon shot noise). Photons arrive in a random manner, like raindrops arrive in a random manner. If you try to measure the amount of rain and you only collect only about 30 raindrops in each go, you won't measure the same amount if you move the bucket by half a meter, because sometimes it might be only 22 and sometimes 37 drops that fall within a given time interval into your sample bucket.
Where were you 10 years ago, when this was actually a valid point, but all the P&S manufacturers were going on their megapixel war. With modern sensor tech, its not this simple anymore, and not necessarily true. High MPx sensors can have fine SNR, DR etc.
Sony's post-processing is generally thought to be inferior to Apple's, but since Sony makes the sensors for their own phones as well as the iPhone 6, it would be weird for Sony to choose to use a sub-par sensor.
Since the new sensor has these features, it's more likely that it could be in a future iPhone.
The chorus of "I don't want 4k video/21-megapixels/optical zoom on my iPhone" reminds me of all the folks who just a few months ago were saying "I don't want a bigger screen/phablet/jumbo iPhone."
Bottom line: If Apple makes it for us, we'll want it.
Eh, for me, it's more like "If I want it, Apple won't make it." I'm totally not of the kind of people they cater to. I don't care about the iPhone, I want better Boot Camp support for FreeBSD, I really want a modular Mac mini with iMac specs for whenever I replace this Mac Pro, I want Rosetta back, and I don't want any soldered-on RAM
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I've had nothing but good experiences with Sony products iff you don't count their PCs.
Really, with a small plastic lense and small sensor its basically a checkmark item.. Improvement in quality... marginal at best.
A good 1080P sensor would be much better...
Sony makes 4K sensors for cell phones because of people like you.
Lol, classic. "Doesn't bother me, therefore it bothers no one."
The chorus of "I don't want 4k video/21-megapixels/optical zoom on my iPhone" reminds me of all the folks who just a few months ago were saying "I don't want a bigger screen/phablet/jumbo iPhone."
Bottom line: If Apple makes it for us, we'll want it.
Just ftr, I still don't want a larger iPhone. 5/4S for me. But I'm also still on iOS 6...
Because you think 20MP quality in 7mm thick module is possible... Go read your physics book and come back to me.
There are already 16MP and 20MP sensors in cell phones and the 6+ already beats them. Because 8MP is adapted to the size of the sensor you can put in there with a thickness X.
Apple could go slightly bigger, but that would mean adding 1-2mm to the thickness of the module. They'd have to make the phone thicker at the top than bottom for that.
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Oh, really, they can bypass physics too? They can invent light from thin air?
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All reviews say different. You better google more and better.
Well, damn. If they can keep the image size down as they seem to be claiming, this could be pretty amazing. The 4K video I can do without, but the camera sounds fairly incredible.
How does something Apple has literally never done translate to something they "don't typically do"?
No it won't.
Pretty sure in the second line it says it cuts down on size, and existing images aren't even a third that size, while 8MP is more than that (1/3).
How does something Apple has literally never done translate to something they "don't typically do"?
No it won't.
Megapixels matter far less to me than sensor size, and light sensitivity.
Say hello to 10-20mb image file sizes!
Pretty sure in the second line it says it cuts down on size, and existing images aren't even a third that size, while 8MP is more than that (1/3).
Eh, for me, it's more like "If I want it, Apple won't make it." I'm totally not of the kind of people they cater to. I don't care about the iPhone, I want better Boot Camp support for FreeBSD, I really want a modular Mac mini with iMac specs for whenever I replace this Mac Pro, I want Rosetta back, and I don't want any soldered-on RAM
lol neckbeard
i was like you once then i found this
Huh! How would 12MP improve low light. You just uttered total nonsense there! The Iphone has the best low light performance of existing smart phones.
Want really fantastic low light performance. Buy a real camera. I can shoot non noisy high megapixel shots in near darkness with a $3000 camera and very nice lens. ..