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Apple Supplier TSMC Delays Production of 4nm Chips at Arizona Factory Due to Skilled Worker Shortage
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It's one of the reasons. The problem-from the greedy corporations view-is higher wages and most of all liability-injury, workers comp, time off, OSHA, etc. US is much more employee friendly that other countries where chips are typically made.
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The problem isn't factory workers. It's the lack of fab factory constructors.
There are only a few hundred people in the world that have hands-on experience creating a 4nm chip factory. That's the skill problem, and not the people who will eventually handle thousands of wafers a year.
BECAUSE American corporations closed all the electronics & semiconductor factories in the USA to focus on exploiting lower wage employment in other countries. The corporations caused this problem in their pursuit of “cutting costs” (maximizing profits).
not factory constructors actually, the infrastructure is basicly complated, remember Biden came to their tool-in ceremony last year, it is about the equipment installation, how many US skilled labour know how to install ASML EUV? ASML build a training lab in Taiwen to train how to assembly, operate and diagnose their machine, US skilled labour with the same know-how can only be find in Intel
In the USA, "shortage of skilled workers" really means "shortage of workers who will work for low wages"
It is kind of embarrassing that TSMC didn’t develop a training program to get workers in place while the factory was still under earlier stages of construction.
Every company I have ever worked with that planned on moving a factory overseas also planned on fully training the domestic workforce for their desired skills.
Every company I have ever worked with that planned on moving a factory overseas also planned on fully training the domestic workforce for their desired skills.
That's why I prefer living somewhere it rarely hits 90F. I'd be fine if it never got above 80F.
When I was camping in Valley of Fire, in Nevada, last June, it hit 111F. My eyes kept drying out.
Last year a TSMC trainee post on glassdoor did heated up for a while, TSMC did sent new hires to Taiwen to experience culture shock
the post can be found here
I've worked in support of factory operations, where the installation of a single machine can take a team of people years and hundreds of millions of dollars.
Ceremonial visits were never a sign of project completion.
I’m saying that I kept seeing people post stuff like “well, if they paid more, then U.S. persons would take the jobs.” Implying that the alternative (being unemployed) is more lucrative than having a job - which is insane.
99% of jobs can be learned on-the-job with adequate training. University only makes sense for a handful of jobs (i.e. engineer, doctor...)
unless they're looking for R&D people, there is no skill shortage. perhaps a work-ethic shortage.
I'll have the chocolate chip please!
Another alternative is taking a non-factory job, of which there are plenty in the USA.
Intel manufactures most of thier chips in USA, so skilled employees do exist.
US is second to China in exports.
Apple, Googe, Microsoft, Amazon, Micron all employ skilled engineers to design products here in USA.
China & India have large low skilled worker populations and cheap labor.
India has 0 chip fabrications factories, how did you determine that India has large skilled workers pool for Fab ?
Since you're coming from the Bay Area... do you think you can handle Arizona heat? We have shattered heat records last week. We surpassed the record of 19 straight days of temps above 110° (and still counting as far as setting the new record)... and we had 2 straight days of 119°.