No my gurd... 3 nanometer! what happens when they reach zero nanometers do they are start using negative numbers?? Also - hopefully these get made at the new AZ plant.
TSMC 3nm is supposedly in early production phase in 2022Q4 even after the delays.So what does this ultimately mean for when products like the Mac will move to 3 NM? Because from the sound of it, the M2 Pro, Max, Ultra might actually either still be 5 or 4 NM until 3 NM is available, which might not be until 2025.
As they only plan to fab 20,000 or so wafers a month, that’d be a good fit for anything going into Mac Pro type quantities. Of course, since TSMC only does the chip, it would have to travel somewhere else to actually be mounted on a circuit board with lots of other chips. And then installed inside a case, etc.So what does this ultimately mean for when products like the Mac will move to 3 NM? Because from the sound of it, the M2 Pro, Max, Ultra might actually either still be 5 or 4 NM until 3 NM is available, which might not be until 2025.
They’re only planning on maxing at 20,000 wafers per month. That’s far from the over 1m wafers per month they do elsewhere.Arizona is the absolute dumbest place for semiconductor plants. (Well, you could add Nevada and most of California to that list too.) Yes, modern plants do massive water recycling... but they require an absolute massive amount of water in the first place, recycled or not. So, yeah, let's just build a plant where there's a 1000 year drought and no real hope of things getting better. Plenty of the US has ample water supply and would make a lot more sense.
Agreed - initially - but I see this as a fail safe facility that can ramp up on volume.They’re only planning on maxing at 20,000 wafers per month. That’s far from the over 1m wafers per month they do elsewhere.
What I’ve read is that it’s 20,000 max wafers a month, ever. The volume they’re building will ramp up to that. This won’t ever be a facility that can produce over 1 million wafers a month.Agreed - initially - but I see this as a fail safe facility that can ramp up on volume.
I would trust what the founder of the company says more than what Kuo predictedDidn't Kuo say they were just doing 4nm here?
Like always, I appreciate you. Glad I could put a smile on your face.That was best comment I’ve read in a while.
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Not if they’re still only producing 20,000 wafers a month. M3 is what would go in the Air, so that’s going to go to the “millions per month” fab site outside the US.M3 / Pro / Max / Ultra / Extreme should be on N3P / N3S / N3X, most likely from the new TSMC USA facilities; shipping Late 2024/Early 2025...
That’s another low volume system that could have it’s entire chip needs met by the smallish US facility.The rumor of 3nm being available in q2 makes me think this is what will power Reality. It seems like we’re so close.
And on a side note, season 2 of Severance should be out Spring/Summer, so there might be some connection there.
Only if Taiwan just hand their country over, I don’t see that happening. if it comes to an invasion that is being lost, expect to see those facilities demolished along with accelerated migration of key employees.FYI, this does nothing if China gains full control over Taiwan.
Why? Because without Taiwan's expertise, this plant won't be able to operate for long.
The conversion to Nanofeet will be laborious, but once done... Imagine the freedom!“Speaking to reporters on Monday in Taipei, Morris Chang said the 3-nanometre plant would be located at the same Arizona site as the 5-nanometre plant.”
But will they work in US devices? They are only compatible with nanometers
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Apple chip supplier TSMC has plans in place to mass produce next-generation 3-nanometer chips at its $12 billion Arizona facility, according to the Taiwanese company's founder.
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Speaking to reporters on Monday in Taipei, Morris Chang said the 3-nanometre plant would be located at the same Arizona site as the 5-nanometre plant.
Apple is rumored to be moving its custom silicon to the 3nm process starting with the M2 Pro or M3 chip. Both Apple's M3 chip for Macs and A17 chip for iPhone 15 Pro models are expected to be manufactured based on TSMC's enhanced 3nm process. Bloomberg's Mark Gurman has said he expects the M2 Pro to be used in updates next year to the 14-inch MacBook Pro and 16-inch MacBook Pro, as well as a high-end Mac mini.
The move to a more advanced process typically results in improved performance and power efficiency, enabling faster speeds and longer battery life on future Macs and iPhones. According to TSMC, 3nm technology, also known as N3, will offer up to 70% logic density gain, up to 15% speed improvement at the same power, and up to 30% power reduction at the same speed when compared to its predecessor. The company says it is targeting volume production in the second half of this year.
Article Link: Apple Supplier TSMC to Produce 3nm Chips at Arizona Plant