Well I'll be. There is even one down the street from me that I don't even recall seeing. They did go bankrupt and got bought by General Wireless
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Apple Supplier Unveils 'Industry First' Tandem OLED Laptop Panel
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My business partner and I ran a manufactures rep business with that machine for over two years (86-88). Order entry, commission reports, line card, correspondence. We had a separate fax machine, but sent faxes from it at some point. Geez, I’m not old, I’m ancient.
Completely agreed! After using vivid on my Pro Display XDR and benefiting from the improved visibility of the M4 iPad Pro’s display in brighter environments, I can’t go back to 500 nits as a maximum. Increases in brightness capability is not only beneficial for increased HDR impact (greater contrast ratio -> improved picture quality) but also is a quality of life improvement for using devices in suboptimal lighting conditions. Not everyone needs devices that can get that bright for their usage situations but for me it’s been very helpful and it’s just nice to have the option to turn things up to 11 if I need it.
Will this eventually allow OLED pixels to shine as bright as LED HDR? If we stack enough OLEDs or whatever.
Maybe, but I really hope Apple resumes development on microLED display tech in the future.
Uh, that argument doesn't make much sense. If you don't need it, then don't buy it. Apple shouldn't build a M5 Max MacBook Pro to cater to corporate executives who buy MacBook Pros to run MS Office. That's what the MacBook Air is for.
I don't recall Apple claiming they invented this technology. Do you have a link? In fact, it's been around for a couple of years now, albeit in low volume.
What doesn't make sense is your conclusion that only HDR video editors buy MBP's and if you don't do HDR video editing, get a MBA?
You truly think there is no other purpose for the performance a MBP offers over the MBA other than video editing? So my question goes unanswered -- what percentage of MBP buyers do HDR video editing (hint: it's not 100%).
Meh. Nobody ever has claimed high end MacBook Pro buyers are 100% video editors (although there are an awful lot of them). That's a straw man argument.
What should be pretty obvious to most people, the point I am making is that these screens truly are very nice, and have very good real world advantages, but are most advantageous for those who do HDR video editing, etc. In that context, Apple is building the high end models to benefit those high end users. However, if you don't want to spend the money on them, then you don't have to, because other very capable models are available. But there is nothing stopping you from buying it if you happen to want to for whatever reason.
BTW, for the record, I am not a video editor either, but I bought the iPad Pro M4 specifically because of the tandem OLED display. I don't need even M2 performance in my iPad Pro, but I bought the iPad Pro M4 because the screen is just so much nicer than the iPad Air's screen. It's not even in the same league.
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Low tech? They‘re one of the best displays you can put into such a machine. High res, plenty bright, great viewing angles and accurate colors. Most people are wowed by these panels.
Just think of the targeted audience: tech illiterate average joe and even more tech illiterate plain jane. Those buyers want a machine that does some web, office and photo editing and are willing to pay the Apple tax for it being nice and pretty to look at. Such buyers don’t give a crap about the latest panel tech.
There are already snapdragon elite laptops with this display. I believe dell has one and it’s cheaper than an M3 air.
Apple iPad Pro display technology in a laptop for the first time: Dell XPS 13 with Snapdragon X Elite utilizes tandem OLED panel
Dell only announced its first laptop with the new Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite chip, namely the XPS 13 (9345), on Monday. The company has now confirmed that the device will be the first laptop in the world to be delivered with a tandem OLED display like in the new Apple iPad Pro.
www.notebookcheck.net
This review might be helpful:
https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple...hter-slimmer-and-lightning-fast.842302.0.html
Set the brightness to the maximum, and voilà : no more PWM
Totally true :—) I've been doing this with iPhones for as long as I can remember. I would only add that if screen gets too bright you can use an option to "Reduce White Point" and still get all the benefits for non-PWM usage.
A 14" MacBook Pro would need 3024-by-1964 so this development would need further development before Apple uses it for their MacBook Pro. I rather don't see it used in a 13" MacBook Air. And that uses 2560-by-1664 resolution.
OLED iPad Pro panel maker LG Display has begun mass producing the industry's first 13-inch tandem OLED panel designed for laptops, the Korean company announced this week.
LG Display supplies the majority of OLED panels for Apple's latest M4 iPad Pro models, which use a similar tandem structure. Tandem OLED panels combine two stacks of red, green, and blue (RGB) organic light emitting layers, which together offer better durability and performance compared to single-layer OLED panels such as the one used in Apple's iPhones.
LG has been developing the panels for the automotive industry since 2019, and says that efficiency gains mean they reduce power consumption by up to 40%, and enable up to three times the brightness. By designing the components and enhancing the structure of the 13-inch tandem OLED panel, LG Display says it has also been able to make it around 40% thinner and 28% lighter than existing OLED laptop screens, allowing for a sleek design and greater portability.
From LG Display's press release:
There are currently no Macs with OLED displays. However, according to a November 2023 report by analyst Jeff Pu of Haitong International Technology Research, Apple is actively developing an OLED screen for the MacBook Air, although the release of an OLED MacBook Pro is expected to come first.
An earlier report by Bloomberg's Mark Gurman claimed that a new MacBook Pro with an OLED display could be the first touchscreen Mac in 2025. Notably LG Display says that it has also embedded a touch sensor inside its latest tandem OLED panels to improve touch performance.
Article Link: Apple Supplier Unveils 'Industry First' Tandem OLED Laptop Panel
I need this to be able to see why i've been suspended from the forum in the deepest black font possible.
PWM can run at any frequency you like. You can see it at 20Hz but not a 1000Hz.
Many.
- https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/eye-strain-while-using-iphone-x-and-up.2085427/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/PWM_Sensitive/
- Google: PWM iPhone
That's good to hear. I hope it makes a major improvement, but my hope is slim.
I'm not understanding why you believe this might be helpful. This is one review showing that the latest iPad uses a very low frequency PWM frequency.
In some cases that helps, but it does not disable PWM for Apple products because Apple's software 100% brightness is not the true hardware 100% brightness, therefore, PWM is always used at all brightnesses.
Exactly. Don't get this one if you are PWM senstive. On the other hand I have a good experience with the M1 iPP.
This is the bastard about percentages and large numbers. Companies always say the same thing.
"This issue affects a small percentage of users."
Apple claims to have, what, around 900 million active users? 1% is 9 million people.
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I am not sure Apple actually had anything to do with the development of this tech other than the fact that "Apple supplier" developed it (who also happens to be a supplier to multiple industries not just Apple). As I understand tandem OLED displays were originally developed for car displays (a year or two ago) and then adopted for tablets and laptops.