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Apple Supplier Unveils 'Industry First' Tandem OLED Laptop Panel
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For the iPhone lineup, only iPhone SE (2022) uses analog voltage dimming. All of their AMOLED iPhones use PWM digital dimming.
Thank you! Good to know! Do you happen to know any display that uses analog dimming? (no need to be oled)
Same as camera’s and all other inner parts of every Apple product. There is very little Apple develops itself. Even their M processors are big parts licensed technology from ARM. Apple is using off the shelf parts; glue them together; put an apple logo on it; quadruple the price… and voila, here is our latest and greatest product you’ll only see this coming from Apple 😂😂😂
The 2026 MacBook Pro will probably come with a snapdragon. I don’t believe Apple is willing $$$$$ or able to compete.
The last time someone mentioned this I asked for any sort of medical or scientific information or evidence on the subject and no one could provide any
and don’t lcd screens also use pwm?
Many LCD displays do not use PWM. I use LG UltraFine 5K monitors. Apple's Studio Display is another option. For less expensive models, it ranges.
Rtings.com is a good source. Here's their review of Apple's Studio Display, for example. Search for the "Flicker" section: https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/apple/studio-display
Some LCD screens do. Most don't nowadays. That is why it's particularly hilarious that Apple brought back flickering displays when they were largely eradicated.
Tandem OLED has been around for years in the automotive sector. Plus, Apple have adopted them in iPads therefore the tech is mature enough for Apple.
More than enough for Apple to care about and do something about it!
Just burned out eyeballs! 😁
But why use the tandem OLED when traditional cheaper OLED can get the same brightness? The chief benefit of tandem OLEDs is brightness without cutting down longevity. But if they don’t use that benefit, what’s the point in using them at all? That was supposedly the whole reason for its existence. I don’t imagine it saves much power over a traditional OLED if it’s not being set as bright. It’ll last longer, but regular OLED already lasts long enough for a typical laptop for most users. Maybe there’s a hidden benefit I’m not seeing, but why not just use a much cheaper OLED that gets just as bright?
Apple is using both LG’s and Samsung’s tandem OLED panels, so likely some of the iPad have this same panel as the Dell on them. Maybe LG has a cheaper version that just doesn’t get that bright?
Apple’s using tandem OLED panels from both LG and Samsung. Are these just inferior to the version Apple is using from them? I just don’t get it. Why use tandem if you’re not going to use the very bright kind?
…Which is fine and fair for the target audience that will make the ROI of the work they do on a Macbook Pro easily—much more expensive Macbook Pros are sold to Silicon Valley annually.
In practice, as usual Apple will have a low-end Macbook SKU even using a M4 for those that merely need additional connectivity and the prosumer display of a Macbook Pro over the Air.
That makes sense with the economy state the world is in towards even some prosumer demographics are more price sensitive than normal because of the rate of layoffs of high-paying jobs in major tech cities and entities Macbook Pros are typically sold to.
They do the same thing with the iPad Pro and probably eventually the Vision portfolio of products that doesn’t have a non-Pro SKU or more mainstream spatial computing form factor (glasses).
If necessary Apple will offer a tandem OLED display SKU vs a MiniLED SKU if the cost increases are that substantial or contentious to be desired their R&D (including research studies) will enlighten them about.
That would be similar to the past when retina and non-retina screen Macbook Pro SKUs were offered.
If it affects your eyes, it does not matter whether you are one of many or some. However, what matters is that “whining” is not a word in the dictionary of compassion.A tiny few, but please don't interrupt the required whining...
Actually it only adds $300 to the price. The other $200 is to add 16GB of RAM. You can’t get the OLED screen without upgrading the RAM. But, I thought only Apple charged that much for RAM and only Apple bumps RAM requirements for non-sequitor upgrades?
Compassion isn't a concern in this situation. Buy something else. To demand Apple makes a product less good for 99% of th users in order to be "compassionate" to 1% is ridiculous.
Interesting overview of the limited research in to the subject.
It does not, however, point to any actual evidence ill health effects from PWM.
"there are several effects that TLM might have"
"there are many anecdotal reports"
"investigations into and and quantification of non-visual responses are on-going"
It also does not speak at all to what the theoretical impact of OLED displays may be compared to other types of displays.
and again, PWM is all around us. if there are ill effects to be had then you aren't going to avoid them by avoiding OLED displays. makes me think of those that fear wifi or "5G" radiation even though nearly every human alive has been blasted with some amount of radio and television waves since birth
Introducing the new MacBook Pro OLED. OLED technology is amazing, and has the capability to turn pixels completely off to produce the only true black capable on any screen. Apple is combining Apple innovation with OLED technology and we will be introducing a notch that now takes up over 60% of the screen.
And we think you're going to love it.
And we think you're going to love it.