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There's still a HUGE business software gap on the Mac side.

At my company, we don't buy cheap PC hardware (HP, ASUS, Acer), we buy the best and most reliable hardware on the market.
Right now that is the Lenovo ThinkPad T series line of laptops.
MacBooks have nice hardware, but limitations in business software for OS X still relegate them to niche departments.
Mainly marketing and media.

Really? What kinds of software are you looking for that relegates Macs to niche markets?
 
And just imagine what they could do if they actually upgraded their Macs on a semi regular basis with the latest processors and chipsets.

The current MacBook Pro 15" is basically the same specs as what was released back in October 2013 (but with a new touchpad), and this is only a smidgen over what was released in June 2012 (which I have).

Today the MacBook Pro 15" comes with 16 GB RAM as standard upgradeable to a maximum of .... 16 GB.

This is getting beyond a joke that they never released a Broadwell based on (yes Intel were delayed) and still haven't released a Skylake based machine.
 
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Well that is 1,000 dollars - not sure where you are in Europe but if that is what you get for that price - you are right, that is unacceptable.

I agree. About 6 months ago the wife got a really nice hp envy 17" for less than 900.00 us that had the newest i7 2.4 quad, 12gb memory, a terabyte drive and geforce 840m discreet graphics, 1080. The closest macbook pro, 15", cost 2500.00 us. She doesn't like mac's, good thing. Either way, 1600 difference is a lot, apple should have a titanium case.

If he paid 1000.00 for a piece of junk then computers are very overpriced where he lives or he needs help when buying computers. 1600 difference is a lot, apple should have a titanium case.
 
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Maybe it is time for DELL to think about giving the money back to its shareholders?

Oh, wait ...:p
 
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Gotta love those carefully-reasoned 2016 predictions.

"Let's see... between 2014 and 2015 Lenovo gained 2.4% marketshare (>10% growth), Dell gained 1.4% (also >10% growth), Apple gained 1% (again, greater than 10% growth), ASUS lost 0.7%, and acer lost 1.1% (over 10% loss).

So clearly in the next year Lenovo's market share is going to stay the same, Dell's will grow slightly, Apple will stay exactly the same, ASUS will gain 0.4%, and acer will stay about the same."

Sure, it's possible they're correct, but where the heck are they pulling these trendlines from? I'm seriously coming back to this article a year from now to see if they were anywhere near the truth. I highly suspect that these market share companies' predictions are based entirely off of somebody with little practical knowledge making up numbers that sorta kinda seem okay.
 
Disagree ^^^

Lack of IT imagination (from your company's IT):
Given today's maturity of desktop OS virtualization (sorted in decresing preference order: Parallels, VMWare Fusion, Virtual Box), a virtualized MBPr/MBA hardware has no limitations on software.

Where is the niche?

If Windows were free, sure. Definitely.
But if you're paying to virtualize a Windows computer, why not just buy one? It doesn't make any financial sense to pay for a premium Apple laptop and then have to pay again for another OS and possibly the server infrastructure (VDI) to run it. Plenty of people have no need of Windows whatsoever. But if your business isn't in that mix, and you need Windows, buying Apple to get Windows is really getting there the hard way.
 
I agree. About 6 months ago the wife got a really nice hp envy 17" for less than 900.00 us that had the newest i7 2.4 quad, 12gb memory, a terabyte drive and geforce 840m discreet graphics, 1080. The closest macbook pro, 15", cost 2500.00 us. She doesn't like mac's. Either way, 1600 difference is a lot, apple should have a titanium case.

If he paid 1000.00 for a piece of junk then computers are very overpriced where he lives or he needs help when buying computers. 1600 difference is a lot, apple should have a titanium case.


Yeah, I've seen the ENVY 17 - they did a nice job and you get a lot for the money - to sad Apple stop making 17s.

I still have my Ti from early 2000s - it still boots... they used to have a titanium case :)

mZBlG82x
 
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Yeah, I've seen the ENVY 17 - they did a nice job and you get a lot for the money - to sad Apple stop making 17s.

I still have my Ti from early 2000s - it still boots... they used to have a titanium case :)

The oldest boy had to have a windows comp for school so we got him a 14" envy. He loves it and the wife liked it so much she wanted one but 17".

I would love to have a 17" macbook pro. With the prices the way they are my next, in a couple of years, will probably either be an air or mini depending on if they are still around or apple hasn't ruined them or priced them out of my range.

OK, for that much difference they should have a Damscus steel case.:)
 
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as I type this on a Late 2011 Macbook Pro - don't really need to keep spending the Apple Tax to buy the latest and greatest!
 
The strange thing with this chart is that nearly every other vendor that grew share this year they show growing share next year, with the exception of apple who grew share this year and they show losing share next year. These "analyst" firms are always suspect to me.
 
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Imagine if apple actually focused on improving its macbook line-up, the way it does with the iPhone. Apple would be the top computer vendor.

It's difficult to say it doesn't. Look at the MacBook Pro for one thing and compare it to most other laptops out there: It's far thinner, lighter and better than those. The trackpad ran circles around PC notebooks, and that was before they iced the cake by making it pressure sensitive. Currently you might argue it needs a processor update, or is too expensive, but it's hard to say it's not one of the industry leaders.

Then there's the ultra-thin MacBook: which is a radical design shift. Like when Apple released the first Air without a CD drive, people are saying they're crazy. But they're willing to invent new battery technology, a new trackpad etc which can make its way into other products, even if the MacBook itself doesn't fit your needs.

Many agree the MacBook Air is in need of an upgrade. But if the Air is Apple's "entry level" or "everyday" notebook, it runs circles around the competition (other than, maybe, it's screen): Multitouch trackpad, much thinner and lighter than other company's mainstream notebooks, easily fast enough for most things your average student (for example) might throw at it. It comes with iWork built in, iMovie built in, etc.

Also - and I can't believe this is still true - Apple are one of the very, very few companies not to load their computers with bloatware or trial software. If you get a brand new HP laptop, you'll find links to eBay and Amazon on your desktop plus you'll have a Norton free trial which eventually bugs you for money.
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There's still a HUGE business software gap on the Mac side.

At my company, we don't buy cheap PC hardware (HP, ASUS, Acer), we buy the best and most reliable hardware on the market.
Right now that is the Lenovo ThinkPad T series line of laptops.
MacBooks have nice hardware, but limitations in business software for OS X still relegate them to niche departments.
Mainly marketing and media.

Not exactly true. I worked for a small retail company which switched the four ageing PCs in the office to three Macs and a PC. The PC needed to run stock control software which was Windows-only, so you're right that there are cases where you need Windows. The Macs were set up to mainly use Safari, Office/iWork and one of them for light Photoshop use.

That's £3,500 on Macs just because they're faster, bloatware free and more reliable.
 
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Exactly and well said. I'm not a brand loyal fanboy but I really like the osx ui. I just wish so many people wouldn't accept how things are and maybe apple would begin to care. Apple should be blowing windows away and they are not, they keep releasing buggy, yearly beta software.

There was a time I would use my mac for serious work, as it knew it was secure and stable, while I was not sure what I was getting with windows and how long it took for bugs/patches to come out. In the last few years, i have found myself having to switch to my windows machine if I wanted stable, the yearly update cycle has brought os x to old windows terrirory, while windows has improved vastly since windows 7, heck 8.1 was ugly, but damn was it stable, and 10 is solid.

Stupid marketing department is running the show, just wish Apple would remember it was a computer company and what made it awesome. Ill buy their damn hardware, and ill even be more happy with it when ios and os x are released every 2 years and stable!
 
The oldest boy had to have a windows comp for school so we got him a 14" envy. He loves it and the wife liked it so much she wanted one but 17".

I would love to have a 17" macbook pro. With the prices the way they are my next, in a couple of years, will probably either be an air or mini depending on if they are still around or apple hasn't ruined them or priced them out of my range.

OK, for that much difference they should have a Damscus steel case.:)

Oh I see,... yeah the 17s were great. They just need to fix the screen on the Air - that panel is a joke.

nop,... i dont have
The story is not about individual companies, but the complete death of Japanese consumer electronics caused by the rise of China both mainland and island.

And even Korea - the shift has been ruthless.
 
Oh I see,... yeah the 17s were great. They just need to fix the screen on the Air - that panel is a joke.

Agreed. The screen is the same as a dell studio tablet I bought in 2008 (the daughter is still using it). At least move to 1080. In it's current state I do see the base air as a viable substitute for the base mini since it's a jump up in both processor and gpu, plus it has an ssd. Use it with a monitor and you still have the portability that could be lived with as a part time thing. With 8gb memory and if you had to go with the 128 stick a 128 sdcard in and it wouldn't be too bad.

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The story is not about individual companies, but the complete death of Japanese consumer electronics caused by the rise of China both mainland and island.
Excellent point.
 
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And even Korea - the shift has been ruthless.
What Samsung lacks in PC shipments it makes up in tablets and smartphones. But the former giant Sony only has the PlayStation left, everything else is now gone. They literally counted Sony Vaio computers under "other" brands in 2015.
 
It is unbalanced, because while Dell, HP, go for market share for worldwide scale as whole, Apple only reports are U.S only, regardless of anything other.

So yea, its unbalanced.

Any other reports done outside not really that great, because Apples own reporting .... its better than what it was, but it's still Apple.
 
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Quote from the article:

"As for ASUS, Apple and Acer, their struggle for the fourth, fifth and sixth positions in the 2016 ranking will be fierce since they have similar market shares of just around 10%."

Ah, yes the classic battle between three As, ASUS, Apple and Acer since they are clearly in competition for the same customers seeking to buy laptops.

Question, do you think the person writing the article realizes how unimportant market share is and how silly it is to put Apple's Macs in the same list as these other computers? I think they do and they put the part I quoted in just to see how far they could get away with saying nonsense.
 
Ugh, those story intro graphics are cruel. Everytime I see one I think "yay!" Apple has finally gotten off their %$# and updated their notebook line.

If Apple "updates" the MacBook Air with those colossal, bright silver bezels, so help me... :eek:

As much as I like the MacBooks, they're pretty dated right now and it's becoming less and less easy to overlook that, especially given the price.

Also, RIP Toshiba.
 
What Samsung lacks in PC shipments it makes up in tablets and smartphones. But the former giant Sony only has the PlayStation left, everything else is now gone. They literally counted Sony Vaio computers under "other" brands in 2015.

I was adding Korea into the list of countries that are giving Japan a run for their money in consumer electronics (not a comparison against china). Well they only hold 5% of Vaio at this point - but that is a good thing. Their new machines as an independent company are better in every way.
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Agreed. The screen is the same as a dell studio tablet I bought in 2008 (the daughter is still using it). At least move to 1080. In it's current state I do see the base air as a viable substitute for the base mini since it's a jump up in both processor and gpu, plus it has an ssd. Use it with a monitor and you still have the portability that could be lived with as a part time thing. With 8gb memory and if you had to go with the 128 stick a 128 sdcard in and it wouldn't be too bad.

Yeah, and when you dock it you have a 13inch 2nd screen. Great for just having an email client up or a Word document you working edits off of. Yeah, I had a 256GB card in my old Vaio Z - just link my work Google drive to it. Never had a storage problem - and when I had to leave on trips I just took out the card - that way if my bag was lost or stolen did not have to worry about all my work files being in the laptop. SD cards are great.
 
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I really like the flow of OSX except the fact that it can't run some of the microsoft programs.
 
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