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Surprising, IMO, that IBM holds spot #4 on the list when truthfully, most people don't even own a computer product or piece of software with their name on it anymore.

Brand is not just about what people run in their PCs. The fact that IBM is crucial to the worlds financial sector and many others is probably a major factor along with initiatives like Watson which is starting to revolutionise health industry.
 
I guess Verizon is powerful in that I hate them with a burning, fiery passion. :) Seriously, worst customer service I have ever experienced anywhere. Comcast phone support is bad, but at least they don't actively insult their customers.

Similar sentiments about Microsoft. I don't hate them, but I don't know a whole ton of people who are like "Yeah Microsoft!" I might just be in an Apple bubble though. :apple:
 
While I've never smoked a day in my life, I fail to see why people here are slamming the tobacco companies. All they can do is produce the product. If the consumer is buying into it then the CONSUMER is the one that is putting them on the high list of most valuable companies.
 
Huh, I didn't know a cigarette was standard issue in the maternity ward.

A smart aleck reply that purposely ignores the point I was making doesn't change the fact of what I was stating.

Obviously it's one's choice to start smoking, but it's dead obvious that they make their real money by getting people addicted to it and having their customers lose self control.
 
AT&T and Verizon I get because they are US telecom providers, but I am surprised there is another one. The rest of those brands are major international powerhouses.

the 3rd one was the Cigarette brand, although I suspect is because I don't smoke and advertising them is banned here.

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I don't know where you live, but all of these brands are global and exist and sell products in almost every country. Either you are in one of those countries that no one sells in (for various reasons) or you don't get out enough. Since you seem to have internet access, and visit sites like MR, I am guessing the latter. :cool::D

I am, however, surprised that brands based outside of the US are not as high on the list.

I have heard of the US mobile brands but they hold no value to me or most of the world, not denying they are huge but when you consider the relatively small population if the US compared to the entire rest of the world its so called value seems out of proportion. The other one I wasnt massively aware of was Marlborough, since cigarette advertising is banned here I am unlikely to know about them unless I smoke (which I don't), so I don't think I am quite at cave man levels just yet! But you are correct. I do have net access, hence why I know about the other 7 - oh yes I am that :cool: . What I am more surprised is the absence of other large and more Global brands, such as GlaxoSmithkline or Unilever or a car manufacturer.
 
…and alcohol. It should be banned immediately and made highly illegal.

Alcohol is fine in moderation, and people even collect wines. I resent the fact that my classmates pretty much use alcohol as another way to get high. It's even annoying when they're slightly drunk from beer. But it's not fair to penalize responsible people for that. Tobacco is tough to ban for similar reasons, though I would say that there's NEVER a good reason to smoke or otherwise consume it (same with weed).

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What exactly is the brand appeal of AT&T and Verizon?

People assume that they have better networks just 'cause. That includes me.

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Makes sense, Windows 10 looks promising plus due to being much more open than Google and Apple, especially in mobile, MS services will be everywhere. That's not even factoring the Xbox brand.

They are way less open than Google, and there's not much they can do to save their ship in the mobile arena.
 
Alcohol is fine in moderation, and people even collect wines. I resent the fact that my classmates pretty much use alcohol as another way to get high. It's even annoying when they're slightly drunk from beer. But it's not fair to penalize responsible people for that. Tobacco is tough to ban for similar reasons, though I would say that there's NEVER a good reason to smoke or otherwise consume it (same with weed).

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People assume that they have better networks just 'cause. That includes me.

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They are way less open than Google, and there's not much they can do to save their ship in the mobile arena.

I think we may have a different view of what is considered open. Because I was thinking about how Mircosoft actually supports Android and iOS very well with it's office and cloud apps, while for whatever reason I don't see anything from Google on Windows Phone, including an offical Youtube app.
 
While I've never smoked a day in my life, I fail to see why people here are slamming the tobacco companies. All they can do is produce the product. If the consumer is buying into it then the CONSUMER is the one that is putting them on the high list of most valuable companies.

Huh! You do know about the history of Tobacco companies and suppressing research, upping nicotine content in their products, targeting minors. There is a reason why they lost so many court cases.
 
I think we may have a different view of what is considered open. Because I was thinking about how Mircosoft actually supports Android and iOS very well with it's office and cloud apps, while for whatever reason I don't see anything from Google on Windows Phone, including an offical Youtube app.

They beat Google in terms of Windows Phone support because they own it. Hardly anyone but Microsoft is going to support Windows Phone. 2.7% market share isn't worth the effort. It's also forgivable because hardly anyone uses it, compared to how much MS neglects much larger platforms.

Microsoft has been very slow to bring Office support to iOS, and they lag behind on Office for Mac. There's essentially nothing Xbox-related for any non-MS platforms. There's no IE for Mac. There's Chrome for Mac and Google Docs for anything powerful enough to run it, and they have pretty much every native app made for Android also made for iOS. There's absolutely no MS support for any Unix operating system besides Mac, but Google at least has decent support (mostly because their stuff is HTML5-based).
 
Huh! You do know about the history of Tobacco companies and suppressing research, upping nicotine content in their products, targeting minors. There is a reason why they lost so many court cases.

You're missing the point sir. If the consumer buys into it, it's the consumer that's helping tobacco companies persevere. Sad that you don't see that.
 
Right. And you think we should ban it because some people abuse it? Just stupid :confused:

Lol ... But what about baning phones because people text while driving? And cars because people drive irresponsibly? schools because of all the bullying that takes place there? All cutlery... Towels are sometimes used to whip people.... All perscription medications... McDonalds and other fatty foods...
 
Lol ... But what about baning phones because people text while driving? And cars because people drive irresponsibly? schools because of all the bullying that takes place there? All cutlery... Towels are sometimes used to whip people.... All perscription medications... McDonalds and other fatty foods...

Studies show that everyone that breathes oxygen ends up dead. :rolleyes: :cool:
 
They beat Google in terms of Windows Phone support because they own it. Hardly anyone but Microsoft is going to support Windows Phone. 2.7% market share isn't worth the effort. It's also forgivable because hardly anyone uses it, compared to how much MS neglects much larger platforms.

Microsoft has been very slow to bring Office support to iOS, and they lag behind on Office for Mac. There's essentially nothing Xbox-related for any non-MS platforms. There's no IE for Mac. There's Chrome for Mac and Google Docs for anything powerful enough to run it, and they have pretty much every native app made for Android also made for iOS. There's absolutely no MS support for any Unix operating system besides Mac, but Google at least has decent support (mostly because their stuff is HTML5-based).

I can't comment on Mac support, but all the apps I've used from MS on iOS and Android were pretty good but maybe this meaning nothing because for a long time didn't really use MS services due to cost. And I don't have an Xbox but I believe Smart Glass is on iOS and Android, as well as Xbox Music.

Plus, like Google Docs, they do have a web app of Office, as well as web versions of Xbox Music and OneDrive allowing Linux users to use them (though they SHOULD have native apps on there).

Maybe I was incorrect saying that MS was MORE open than Google, but it seems like for the average person, they seem to be equally open.
 
You're missing the point sir. If the consumer buys into it, it's the consumer that's helping tobacco companies persevere. Sad that you don't see that.

Right. Also, we should get rid of antitrust because it's the consumer's own fault they keep buying from the same oligopolies!
 
A smart aleck reply that purposely ignores the point I was making doesn't change the fact of what I was stating.

Obviously it's one's choice to start smoking, but it's dead obvious that they make their real money by getting people addicted to it and having their customers lose self control.

And people aren't addicted to sugary foods, cell phones, and whatever other vices they happen to be roped into? I realize it's chic now to blast tobacco companies but just like overpriced electronics.... The consumer CHOOSES to buy them and keep buying them. Quitting smoking is just like dieting: you CAN do it but it takes work and that scares away most people.
 
And people aren't addicted to sugary foods, cell phones, and whatever other vices they happen to be roped into? I realize it's chic now to blast tobacco companies but just like overpriced electronics.... The consumer CHOOSES to buy them and keep buying them. Quitting smoking is just like dieting: you CAN do it but it takes work and that scares away most people.

Uh, no, people aren't addicted to cell phones the way they may be addicted to tobacco. That's not how the psyche works.
 
And people aren't addicted to sugary foods, cell phones, and whatever other vices they happen to be roped into? I realize it's chic now to blast tobacco companies but just like overpriced electronics.... The consumer CHOOSES to buy them and keep buying them. Quitting smoking is just like dieting: you CAN do it but it takes work and that scares away most people.

No where in my posts did I say that people aren't addicted to other things, nor did I ever defend sugary food companies. "Cell phone addictions" are a bit silly in my opinion so I won't even mention them. I don't know what you mean about it being "chic to blast tobacco companies", because I've always hated cigarette companies and there has always been anti-smoking campaigns going on for decades. I'm not even going to comment on the comparison of tobacco companies to overpriced electronics.

Do you have any idea what smoking these cigarettes does to a person? That's an honest question, because it seems that you think people don't quit because it's simply "too much work". Tobacco companies purposely add a drug called nicotine to get a person's body addicted to their product. True, you can get "addicted" to anything, but it's much worse for cigarettes because there's an active drug making you crave the product more and more. It is NOT as simple as just putting some effort into it. Why do you think the most cliche smoker's line is "I can quit whenever I want, I just don't want to"?
 
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