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Does Apple have a track record of introducing me too products? Why leap to the conclusion Apple is stupid?
Newton, iPod, iPhone, AirPods (and Max), Vision. Yes, yes they do. You might say it’s the core competency at Apple, in fact. Even Microsoft had an Arm laptop years before M1. I think the iPad was relatively original, I don’t recall a lot of other devices preceding it but may be wrong.
 
How can you draw a conclusion when you have absolutely no idea of why Apple did so. I'm quite sure that they have a valid reason that you are not aware of and don't want to consider.
If you agree that Apple want as much useful data as possible then you must also agree that sending to non vision users also would be useful.
I have no idea why Apple sent to vision pro users only but consider two scenarios;
1. I own a competing device and Apple do know why I chose that instead.
2. I own a competing device and Apple do NOT know why I chose that instead.
Which is generally the better position to be in?
 
give us some glasses with iphone quality video/photos and perplexity! thats all it needs to compete with meta glasses.
 
traduce esto al español: i'm not sure about asking customers about a product. As steve jobs said, users don't know what they want until they see it.
But in order to doing this, you need a genious leading apple, not a worker.
 
I'm not sure I get your point. iPhone AR is not a face-worn product, so it's not really relevant to what I'm saying.
The Vision Pro is and it's not doing well. They could have skipped the ski-goggle form factor and just worked on the glasses until they were ready to ship and the tech had caught up. The Vision Pro isn't doing them any favours as it is.
Dude, he’s talking about the development of the technologies that will underpin these mystical future glasses. The Vision Pro is a technological marvel in itself, and they sure learned valuable lessons from it.
 
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Dude, he’s talking about the development of the technologies that will underpin these mystical future glasses. The Vision Pro is a technological marvel in itself, and they sure learned valuable lessons from it.
Let’s ease up of the hyperbole, it’s a VR headset. It’s a really nice one, but it’s a not like they couldn’t have continued to explore this tech internally.
 
They could’ve asked people first—before spending billions on a product that now just sits in closets collecting dust. It didn’t need to be branded as an Apple survey, just a general one about interest in VR headsets or lightweight AR glasses.
Yes, Steve Jobs once said:

“Some people say, ‘Give the customers what they want.’ But that’s not my approach. Our job is to figure out what they’re going to want before they do… People don’t know what they want until you show it to them.”
That philosophy worked for him, but the risks Apple took back then were much smaller. Sure, products like the Apple Watch and AirPods were successful—but they’re still compact, practical, and truly portable.

Strapping a brick to your face and walking around in public? Not so much. VR headsets have mostly been a niche product for gamers and developers. Apple tried to create one for the general public—with a high price tag—but it simply wasn’t practical.

Even Nintendo had a headset once. I barely used it and ended up selling it after just a couple of months.
 
Using something like Meta Ray Bans/Oakley glasses would be very difficult here (Germany), you can wear them in your own home, but using them in public would be a GDPR nightmare - you can't take a photo or video of other people, company names, logos and contact information has to be blurred out, car registration plates have to be blurred out etc.

That is possibly why sitting at home with a Visio Pro type headset is more appealing to me than something like the Ray Bans.
 
How to sell millions of Apple Vision? Just make Apple Vision Pro not requiring prescription glasses. Not for useless spatial computing. Just to watch 3D movies.
 
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I hope Apple has a decent trade in program for AVP1. Give me a $3k credit and refurb my version with an M5 to resell. Or just charge $1k for a motherboard upgrade.
 
….so it’s too heavy then?
Haha, there’s a clearer way of writing that, but it takes far more words.

I can add this: It’s not too heavy in the sense that it’s not like my neck gets tired or sore. But quite a lot of tension is required to keep the device positioned. That tension is what hurts. So the weight could be reduced, or it could be closer to your eyes, or more friction on your face, or better weight distribution.
 
In the article the other day suggesting a roadmap for products, there was one called ‘display accessory’ which was put on hold.

I really feel that would be a viable product if it’s something as small as (or smaller than) a Bigscreen Beyond, without having a light shield.

It could just connect to your Mac or iPhone by just looking at it and then it mirrors the displays in 3D space.

It's like - I bought a 3G Apple Watch years ago but I could count on one hand the number of times that I have left the house without my phone in my pocket.
 
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I wish this childish hate toward Apple would stop already. I'm sure there are better hobbies than spending hours expressing hate (mostly unwarranted) and nonsensical hyperbole toward Apple. Some obviously enjoy reading post after post of this, but I don't. I want valid information, and honest and useful discussion of issues with Apple and their products.

(I make abundant use of the ignore file, but the 1000 name limit is not enough).
No offense, you just joined this site. Many of us have been around a long time, and have seen a lot changes.
 
They should survey those who own multiple Apple products and aren't interested to buy it instead of surveying the 100 people who bought it and maybe used once or twice.

Exactly what I thought.

In a product that's withering on the vine, there's very little value in understanding more from those that actually bought and kept it.

It's everyone else that you need to poll and figure out how to address.
 
Good to know about this. A lot of improvement can be done. Waiting for a wider availability of Vision Pro and of course a lower priced version. The glasses should be a successful product as many might not be happy wearing a headset for longer hours.
 
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Don’t take it so personally.
These comments are from strangers on a web forum.

Nothing here matters. Your love of your purchase is intact.

Strangers can still be polite. Some people have written thousands of comments to strangers on a web forum, so it probably matters to those people.

Vision pro is a solution searching for a problem and at 3,500 its out of reach for the majority of consumers.
It’s an amazing (and uncomfortable) solution though. Or, if the problem is having to work in an office on a computer, it offers a better view.
 
How can you draw a conclusion when you have absolutely no idea of why Apple did so. I'm quite sure that they have a valid reason that you are not aware of and don't want to consider.

Thanks so much for insulting me. You have NO idea of what my motivations were in purchasing the device. Generalizing hate like this doesn't help anyone except those that practice schadenfreude.
How do merely words typed on the internet hurt peoples feelings these days..... :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
Haha, there’s a clearer way of writing that, but it takes far more words.

I can add this: It’s not too heavy in the sense that it’s not like my neck gets tired or sore. But quite a lot of tension is required to keep the device positioned. That tension is what hurts. So the weight could be reduced, or it could be closer to your eyes, or more friction on your face, or better weight distribution.
That "tension" is due to the excessive weight, man. Just admit it, it's ok.
 
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