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Considering...

..that Sony is doing quite well with their NZ-70, an $800 PDA that's not the lightest, smallest, nor cheapest on the market, yet offers things like a digital camera, bluetooth, optional 802.11b and MPEG-4 playback, I could see this from Apple as a competitor. I'd love to have one as a useful addition for my wife to use Quicken or surf while I use the other Mac for work.
 
Originally posted by MikeH
Tablet PC's - I just don't see the point.

Watching films? I've got a widescreen TV and DVD player for that.
Music? A stereo.
Music while surfing? iTunes
Portablitiy? I'd buy a laptop
Portable games? GBA
Note taking? A pen and pad, and save myself a bunch of cash

Thank God someone else has saved me the trouble typing out this list. Totally agree!

Mark my words, I hope this is just a rumor, because this device will be one big fat belly flop. And there won't be much water left in the pool. Whatever that means!. :p

The iPod - now that was a real idea. I wouldn't sell mine for quids. Here's a device which genuinely improves the quality of people's lives, and guess what? There's money in that!
 
All Apple is doing now is making products that dont need to be the fastest. Its great that they can come up with usefull devices but none of them are as fast as everything else out there. I wonder if this thing will even have a G4 in it. If it isnt fast enough to edit your home movies, it shouldnt be sold for more than $500.
 
I would buy one if Apple makes a 14". 8.5" is to small for me and the "kewlfaktor" doesn't do it. I think the 8.5" has a market though. But only make a 8.5" isn't enough. I mean "Big and Small Things From Apple"... so why not make a 14"? it might not be bigger then other TabletPCs but atleast more usefull.

I think a G4 is out of the question. The G4s from Motorola that'll come Q4 (PPC7447 and PPC7457) might do it though. But, I think this product will come at the WWDC in June. So it'll be a G3, i'm pretty sure of that.

5h battery isn't enough either. But all that stuff packed in that small box makes it tricky. But Fullcells will come sometime next year so it might kick butt then.

WWDC will be an intressting event more then just the WWDC (Panther and PPC970).
 
May as well throw in...

....

X10 technology into the unit.....we are building a super-do-it-all system at this point :D

Lou G.
 
Originally posted by The Shadow
Even that low price STILL converts into nearly $1,000 Australian mate. For something noone needs. Ouch!

So glad you can speak for EVERYONE...mate.;)

Business people, students, and some home users. Think about it. Think Different.:)
 
Originally posted by MikeH
Tablet PC's - I just don't see the point.

Watching films? I've got a widescreen TV and DVD player for that.
Music? A stereo.
Music while surfing? iTunes
Portablitiy? I'd buy a laptop
Portable games? GBA
Note taking? A pen and pad, and save myself a bunch of cash

Aside from the fact an Apple tablet may well look impossibly cool, it just sounda like a gimick at the moment. If it had a 20" screen, powerful graphics, a bucket load of RAM and the sensitivity of a Wacom tablet, then it could be great with Photoshop or Painter. But if not it's just going to be a PDA with a superiority complex.


So you are going to carry around your widescreen tv, your dvd player, your stereo, your computer (for iTunes) which I'm guessing by the next item is a laptop, your gameboy, and a pen and pad of paper that you are goping to have to type in to your computer later on any way???

Wow, you are an amazingly strong and talented...
 
Originally posted by reyesmac
, it shouldnt be sold for more than $500.

That $500 point is a good one. Thats how Palm made it.
Generally something under $500 can be expensed rather than capitalized.
Simply easier to buy.
 
Now this is thinking differently

Originally posted by requies
from macwhispers:

"The underside has two compartment openings; one is 66mm x 106mm; no cover is being injected at the same plant."

i find it very interesting that 66mm x 106mm is almost exactly the size of an ipod. coincidence? we shall see! ;)

A definite "Aha!" insight. I like your thinking.

So where does that lead us? Your (new version) iPod acts as the hard drive for a larger...what?

As a certain Vulcan would say, "Fascinating...". I honestly think you may be onto something.

~ Teqanjel
 
Re: powerPod ??

Originally posted by 3G4N
consumer / professional
iMac ---> PowerMac
iBook ---> PowerBook
iPod ---> PowerPod
iMovie ---> Final Cut Pro
iDVD ---> DVD Studio Pro


Yeah, I'm just sitting here waiting for PowerChat, PowerPhoto, PowerTunes...

If Apple really has such a product, it's possible that it's something we won't be able to understand, because it'll be beyond anything we know. Jobs and his people are geniuses, and chances are, this product is the product of genius as well. We'd have to be geniuses to figure out what this is before they release it. And even if some of us are geniuses, it would be stupendous chance if we could figure out the exact same thing that Apple figured out.

(Either that, or it's a portable DVD-QuickTime player/digital image viewer with trivial computing capabilities, like the iPod.)

I don't know about you, but I have a Palm, and the Palm has a freestyle rub-the-stylus-on-the-screen-and-it-records-the-lines-you-scribble program. Rubbing a plastic stick against a plastic screen is nothing like writing on paper. It's also what I hate. I can type for hours, but start me with a pen, and I'm cramped in 30 minutes. Pen input is not going to utterly replace keyboards. In fact, it's not really going to replace much of anything. It is what we've been replacing for decades. It's still holding out in some places.

As for those of you who don't like to take notes with a laptop?it's a personal problem. Digitizing your personal problem won't solve anything. Some people can't even write with a keyboard, they have to write out their thoughts on paper and then copy them to the computer through typing. I more or less grew up with computers, so I can write on a computer. Others were able to transition.

Likewise with notes. As a high school senior, I've never taken notes with a computer. It might be difficult, for me. I'll try to adapt and adjust. I'll probably make it. If the first time people try taking notes with a computer is in college, however, they'll have trouble. Some of them. Which is why we need high schoolers equipped with laptops. In the future, this will happen more and more. If you learn to write with a computer early in life, you can do it, if not, you might not be able to. No one learned to take notes with a computer early in life. That's why no one does it. The issue of taking notes by computer is mostly going to be solved given time.

(I have to note that pen-based input might be a necessity here, however, only to some extent?the sciences use odd symbols that computers will find difficult to deal with. Somehow, this has to be handled.)
 
Re: Now this is thinking differently

Originally posted by Teqanjel
A definite "Aha!" insight. I like your thinking.

So where does that lead us? Your (new version) iPod acts as the hard drive for a larger...what?

As a certain Vulcan would say, "Fascinating...". I honestly think you may be onto something.

~ Teqanjel

Oh...my. (head expands with the possiblities)...

Okay, what do we know about the OS of the iPod? Can it handle the duties of a heavyweight PDA / lightweight laptop, or will this potentially use a version of OS X ?
 
Originally posted by MacQuest
You're words have been marked...:)

That way I'll know who to ridicule when this "thing" materializes.;)

Goodonya! :D

Someone's gotta provide the entertainment around here.

Some of the posts are a little bit too serious, in my humble opinion.

Anyhow, as a member of the loyal Mac faithful, I hope I really don't have a clue. (There's an invitation)
 
Originally posted by The Shadow
Goodonya! :D

Goodonya!:D Right back at ya mate! :D

Now let's celebrate with a trough full of Fosters lager, throw a few shrimp on the Bar-B while munching on a Vegemite sandwich, and wind down while watching the wild shannanigans of Paul Hogan in his Crocodile Dundee flicks... Can l bring my "Men At Work" CD's?!

;) :)
 
Re: Re: Wow...and wow again

Originally posted by MacQuest
Quite the realist
You're absolutely right, I am a realist. My habit of bringing people back down to earth tends to upset those around me...sorry you found yourself within that sphere. Consider me...a reality check. :D

I'm just trying to point out that some of the suggestions that are being made here are quite ridiculous. Cmon, an optical drive in a device that small? I honestly think that this device will have a simple role...something that people can identify with, like music with the iPod. This little device isn't going to run your house, check your email, and order you pizza. And yes, I do attribute this rampant wild speculation about some uber-DLD to the fact that Apple implemented some mild PDA-style functionality into the iPod. Since then, people have been speculating about a tablet and a PDA, both of which will probably never materialize...
 
Originally posted by mangoman
Ummm, can we get back to wild speculation, please?

If you're referring to me and "The Shadows" [BTW, "I'm Batman"] off topic jests then...NO!!;)

Just trying to keep spirits high internationally in this time of turmoil. War?! There's a WAR!! I was only talking about the turmoil within the Mac rumor community!!

I better turn on Comedy Central to find out what's really going on!:D

Okay, back to the original topic of the tablet thingamajiggy...
 
Re: Re: Re: Wow...and wow again

Originally posted by smashedapart
You're absolutely right, I am a realist...And yes, I do attribute this rampant wild speculation about some uber-DLD to the fact that Apple implemented some mild PDA-style functionality into the iPod.

I for one, would be relieved if that is true.

I'd love to see the iPod evolve. It's great the way it is, but as plenty of contributors have pointed out, there's plenty more potential.

It would be nice to see this product stay ahead of the competition, so it probably needs to continue to evolve. Up till now, most people seem to attribute the iPod's market leadership on its simplicity and elegance. But now that the market has been created and educated, 2 years on is it?, it's probably time for the next step (No pun intended) to cement this position in the market.

Having said that, isn't it a little surprising there have not been more true imitators yet?
 
Well - if I could weigh in.....

I use my iPod as a backup anyways (I backup documents and pics, in addition to my music)

I use the iPod everywhere for my tunes, but it would be pretty cool if I could pull up a document or picture from it, considering that I already back them up on my iPod

So....since I'm waiting for the 40 gig iPod (because I need space for tunes and backup), I'll also wait for this tablet

if the price is competitive (or similar to high end iPods), then I'll buy one.....if I'm gonna backup my entire harddrive on an iPod, then I'm willing to pay a few hundred more dollars to add the functionality of viewing all of my backed up stuff
 
Re: Re: Re: Wow...and wow again

Originally posted by smashedapart
You're absolutely right, I am a realist.

Honestly, I was being being sarcastic. I think you are definately leaning alot more towards the category of pessimist than realist. Just my opinion though.


Originally posted by smashedapart
...Since then, people have been speculating about a tablet and a PDA, both of which will probably never materialize...

See!! This is what I mean about being a pessimist. Apple could easily pump out a PDA or Tablet computer that would make Palm along with BG and MS bury their heads up their own ******s in embarrassment. Yet they've refrained until the market conditions improved, but more importantly and even more likely, until they again have a truly revolutionary product.

A realist would recognize that it is perfectly feasible, and probably a necessity to broaden it's DLD base consequently promoting it's own marketing focus, for Apple to introduce an entirely new product that would pull from the existing PDA and Tablet computer [if there is one:rolleyes:] markets.

A pessimist would say something about Apple like "...a tablet and a PDA, both of which will probably never materialize".

Not to beat a dead horse, but I know that it has been speculated that the same pessimism would've been expressed about an Apple branded "MP3 player" prior to 4th quarter of 2001.
 
Re: Re: Re: Re: Wow...and wow again

Originally posted by The Shadow
...so it [iPod] probably needs to continue to evolve.

I agree. I want to get more functionality out of my 1st gen. 5 Gigger also. However it's main drawbacks are the inability to input information without the need to connect to a computer and also, quite frankly, color. That's where this new device will pick up the ball and run with it...ala Rugby.;)


Originally posted by The Shadow
...2 years on is it?

1.5 actually.:)


Originally posted by The Shadow
...it's probably time for the next step (No pun intended)...

Very clever.:D
 
Re: Re: Wow...and wow again

Originally posted by mgescuro
Video recording on a tablet PC. That's about as useful as taking a picture on your cell phone.

You should check out the growth of cellphone-based video in South Korea before taking too absolutist a claim...

And, to clarify my earlier post, I didn't intend full camcorder-style video ... I was thinking webcam-style ... no, it's not perfect, but all I need is some sense of what I recorded ... not all things presented in meetings or classes can be easily reduced to text or sound recordings ...

cheerz!
 
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