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Just saw this on reddit, not sure how legitimate it is.

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You are not understanding the concept of the kindle or possibly the Apple tablet "free 3G" connectivity.

The 3G service is not incorporated into the price of the device, it is incorporated into the content. So every download from the app store, music store, movie store, etc will have a small transmission fee payment sent to the service provider that Apple partners with.

The Kindle has Whispernet which is provided by Sprint. Sprint gets a payment every time someone purchases an ebook.

The Apple tablet will be a content device, the price of 3G connectivity will be built into the content price. If you download a movie via the tablet 3G then part of the purchase price will go to Apple and part of the purchase price will go to Verizon.

Most likely this type of connectivity will be limited. To have full connectivity you will need to access the internet via WiFi or tethering to a 3G phone.

Even if there is some sort of content-subsidized 3G like you subscribe, there's no way they'd make you tether or use wi-fi to access "the rest of the web." It's a complete waste of a 3G radio. You'll be able to pay for 3G just like with an aircard, and hopefully at a discount.
 
Far too industrial in design.

I could believe it might be how Apples tested the hardware and software, but I cannot believe that is the shipping form factor.

It's purported to be a "internal concept," not the shipping form factor. I could easily believe they had something like this internally to test the software/hardware choices without having to tool up for the final industrial design.
 
VOIP is already somewhat there (there's several VOIP apps already).

Right but its unfortunately crippled. What we need is for it to be native like it is on Nokia phones. On my n97 I can select to have it place a call on the internet only, or according to my preferences (internet first if available, then through Carrier if not, or vice versa). That's what's missing right now in the iphone, the ability to have it automatically place the call from your contact list according to your preferences. The VOIP apps on the iphone don't let you tap into the core functionality of the phone.

But if the revolution you seek involves a significant drop in costs to make 3G-like calls via a 3G connection, I wouldn't hold my breath. That's exactly what AT&T, Verizon, etc do NOT want, which is why this Tablet is not going to end up with some kind of 3G special plan priced well below current 3G plans. They are not going to want this Tablet to end up being the best deal in the U.S. for making fully mobile (3G) calls- VOIP or otherwise.

Right but they can't really stop it at this point, and any smart consumer is already using it. If you have a data plan over 3G, you can initiate VOIP calls, so might as well let the SDK build VOIP into core functionality. Either way, whether you go the 60$ route for the data plan through the major carriers or the 40$ route through the Datajack carrier (placing the sim card into your 3G capable hardware), there is simply no need to have any standard voice plan. Once enough people start doing this (and the only reason they haven't so far is because it hasn't been made easy enough and hasn't become readily known), the traditional voice offerings will be no more and the only thing you will be paying for is data. This is only a couple of years away at this point.

I can imagine a Tethering deal for existing iPhone people, but I could also see that becoming hack-city, meaning it would quickly be hacked for all devices (laptops, etc) tethered use.

Verizon and other carriers already allow you to tether your smartphones to your laptops or all other devices. Once the Apple exclusivity is over, Apple will gain this same benefit, AT&T will have to compete to keep people on its network.

More likely, I imagine a dedicated SIM with either:
  • a one-time setup fee for iPhone people to link the Tablet to their iPhone contract deal (use one or use the other but not both at the same time), or
  • a modest extra monthly fee to add this to your existing iPhone contract (comparable to adding a second phone to a cell phone contract)
Note that both have a cost, though the former would be just a one-time cost, while the latter amps up the monthly revenue stream for AT&T. On the flipside, the former limits usage to one device or the other at any given time, while the latter would make both devices (3G access) usable at the same time. Along with an option for no 3G functionality (wifi/wimax only), I very much suspect something like these options for existing iPhone people that want to add a Tablet.

Well that might materialize if the other carriers agree to do the same thing. I hope it doesn't and that Apple products will be treated like all other products (no limits to tethering capabilities; the only limit is data). But if we are talking about a small nominal fee to unlock tethering then its no big deal.

But I see no possibilities for consumers to score a big win via 3G VOIP at the expense of the monopoly Goliaths of AT&T, Verizon, etc. They know very clearly where their bread is buttered.

They do but if they offer data, they can't do anything about VOIP, especially with the FTC recent rulings.
 
And here we go with another generation of ugly screen protectors and covers of the style of choice, and just because the lousy design doesn't take in account how these gadget lives inside our bags.
 
All the hardware rumors don't really interest me. I just don't think it's very important.

The software is what will make or break this device. I hope Apple can lauch it with an excellent suite of apps with functionality that is intuitive and impossible to attain on other devices.

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There are only a few ways to make a touchscreen tablet. Flattening the iPhone would be one way. But the differences in the UI that will be custom to the tablet will set it apart.
 
Let me apologise in advance for this, but I really hate the concept that a device that doesn't run 'basic mac '(i.e. OS X) desktop applications is a toy.

Why, in the name of all that's holy, would you want to run a desktop application on a 10" screen that's controlled with your finger? It doesn't make any sense, applications MUST be built around the OS and input methods available on a platofrm, it's why Windows Tablets are all crap (and trust me, that's from experience) - it's a compromise that brings no benefits for the user and almost always results in a worse experience that a mouse and keyboard that the app was designed for.

Now, on the concept of it being a 'toy' - bollocks quite frankly. Is it a device for professionals? No, but again no 10" touchscreen device is going to be, the format has built in limitations. If you want to run apps like that for the love of god buy a laptop with a nice big screen, keyboard and mouse/trackpad. However if you're a normal home user that browses the web, watches movies and creates content with stuff like iPhoto and iMovie instead of Photoshop and Premier then it could be perfect. Make the apps super simple with enough functionality to produce good results and target it at home users. Give it enough local storage to not need a host PC to sync with. Make it trivial to find apps, music, movies and publications. Make it instant-on and require virtually zero maintenance. Hey presto, the first true consumer computer.

No apologies needed... I agree 100%. The great thing about the iPod Touch and iPhone is that you can pick the thing up and get going. No booting or searching for the right app. The only problem is the screen size.

That's why I'd love to see a giant iPhone/iPod Touch. It will distinguish itself enough when more apps are released that utilize the large screen. I imagine these will focus more on creativity, which simply is not possible with the iPhone's small screen.
 
The mockup looks fantastic. However, if you've seen the other bezel images and superimpose those I think you'll find it to be slightly (25%) uglier. Come to think of it...

I think we're getting a 10" version of this...
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At Home Docking? Slimmer, sexier though.
 
On this week's MacBreak Weekly, Leo and the gang were discussing this. Alex Lindsay said he thinks that the bandwidth cost of downloading whatever content would be included in the price of that content. So a couple of cents or whatever would go to the provider each time you downloaded something. This precludes, of course, the ability to send and receive data for regular surfing, email, etc., which would require WiFi.

Just speculation, but a cool model. Is this what the Kindle does?

I think this would work, but I'm thinking Apple will find a way to use their recent mobile advertising aquisition to provide ad-subsidized 3g/4g...

What other reason does Apple have to get into advertising?

I agree w/ others, if the data is another 2yr contract ($30-&60/mo) I will not be buying one.
 
Built in connectivity (ala Kindle) had better be there. The last thing I need is yet another $60 a month data plan. I have enough of those already.

If you expect free 3G, you'll be sorely disappointed.

NO KIDDING lol! :rolleyes: The only reason the Kindle has that is because Amazon pays them and it uses hardly any data. The Tablet will use EVEN MORE data then the iPhone! There is no way in HE!! any of the wireless networks will essentially give away MASSIVE AMOUNTS of service for free, nor will Apple pay your wireless bill for you to them lol! Seriously, can we say ridiculous expectations? :confused:

You will be able to buy it cheaper and subsidized with a data plan like a phone with a contract, or buy it full price with just WIFI which is what I will do! I don't want another data plan either when I already have an iPhone. THAT is realistic, and THAT is what will happen. You'll see Wednesday! ;)
 
Bingo! MacBook Air without a fold-out keyboard! :)



Same here. I don't want 3G on my Tablet! I want Wi-Fi only. I have an iPhone if I need to look something up while walking through the park.

I agree... too bad your iPhone can't function as an ad-hoc access point. or a blue tooth bridge or something. I email steve jobs about this very feature like a year ago. I neevr thought of it in this context until now but that would be cool
 
You know what Apple's solution will be for the ear bud problems? Simply stop including them with ipods, iphones, etc. To Apple, most people probably use their own preferred headphones anyway, so why loose profit share by including better/more expensive headphones? Those who really want Apple branded headphones that are of decent quality can spend 80 bucks on the Apple in-ear phones.

Obviously I am with you - I do think Apple should be including better quality headsets, but from a cost/benefit perspective, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple completely drops the headphones in future consumer devices.

The last thing Apple wants is the average user experience to be like this: I just got my iPod (iPad, whatever), I tear open the package, and oh, no sound. Now I need to find an electronics or audio store (most people don't have an Apple store handy), drive there and choose a set of earphones I probably know nothing about before I can use my new toy.

It won't happen. Apple will continue to supply low-cost earbuds with every device like this.
 
... and for the americans who don't understand the word "Bollocks", in the sentence above it means what a load of old s..t. :):)
I do not think it means what you think it means...

Wikipedia said:
Bollocks is a word of Anglo-Saxon origin, meaning "testicles". The word is often used figuratively in British English slang, as a noun to mean "nonsense", an expletive following a minor accident or misfortune, or an adjective to mean "poor quality" or "useless". Similarly, the common phrases "Bollocks to this!" or "That's a load of old bollocks" generally indicate contempt for a certain task, subject or opinion. Conversely, the word also figures in idiomatic phrases such as "the dog's bollocks" and "top bollock(s)", which usually refer to something which is admired, approved of or well-respected.

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You realize that engineers, when we are testing our system designs, build prototypes that look nothing at all like the final design, right?


Correct, but it's not exactly going to give us much insight into the final design rendering the whole discussion on the image moot.
 
You are not understanding the concept of the kindle or possibly the Apple tablet "free 3G" connectivity.

The 3G service is not incorporated into the price of the device, it is incorporated into the content. So every download from the app store, music store, movie store, etc will have a small transmission fee payment sent to the service provider that Apple partners with.

That is not entirely correct. True, Amazon must pay Sprint for each Kindle users use of wispernet service, BUT a Kindle user can download free public domain books or browse the web sites, albeit painfully, at no charge, and Amazon still must pay Sprint. That is because Wispernet is accounted for in the price of the Kindle.

Also when people say they expect wireless to be at no additional charge, I think they mean for everything, not just downloading media. They talk about not having to pay another $60 for data. With the Kindle, and now Nook, it's quite standard and expected not not pay additionally for e-delivery of media. So I don't think that is what people are talking about when they mention bundled wireless service.
 
If there is a subsidised price I'm curious what will happen here in the UK. We have now got 3 different providers, O2, Vodafone and Orange, plus Tesco Mobile who run on the back of O2.

Their prices are all almost identical, there is absolutely no competition. Would more than likely be the same for the slate/pad or whatever it will be called. :):)

Vodafone's £30/unlimited texts plan is pretty competitive...

Orange has best 3G coverage + orange Wednesdays...

Tesco Mobile has clubcard... :)
 
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