Glass screen= scratches = fail too?
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Apple Product + Third Party Case = no scratches
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Any Apple Product = scratches = User Failed
Apple Product + Third Party Case = no scratches
well, if all this is true, I can see the tablet's position in the market, and I can imagine myself buying one on rev B or C. But as things appear at the moment, I can't say I'm excited about it, at least not if it doesn't have some decent word processing and some file management system I can interact with (i.e, not like iphone)
and not for $1000.
and not for $1000.
Not necessarily - paper can easily be recycled, and there are large carbon costs with developing, manufacturing and disposing of electronic devices.Greener than killing 2 trees every time you buy a book
Don't mistake me for an ecowarrior BTW - couldn't care less frankly, but just pointing out nothing is ever simple in the church of climate change
$1000.00 seems like quite a bit of money for this. At that price Id probably be more likely to pony up the cash to get a new MBP.....Now if it were to fall within the $500.00-$700.00 range Id be more likely to get the tablet and also maybe get a new MBP.
Not necessarily - paper can easily be recycled, and there are large carbon costs with developing, manufacturing and disposing of electronic devices.
Don't mistake me for an ecowarrior BTW - couldn't care less frankly, but just pointing out nothing is ever simple in the church of climate change
I'm not expert either but I'm going to make up this statistic from no where to win the argument because this is the internet and MR.
Each tablet will save approximately one tree on average and each tree absorbs the CO2 that ten tablets make in their lifetime.
Totally owned.
Looks like you did just make up a statistic.
At any rate trees are like any other crop. Plants seeds & let the grown, cut them down, rinse, repeat. The only "waste" of a tree is when its used to print a bad book - of course you can always recycle -- the paper, not the garbage ideas in the book. Trees are not rare, endangered organisms that need to be "saved."
I don't know if this has been mentioned before, It probably has, But well surely it's logical for them to offer tethering through your iPhone instead of or, as well as the separate date network contract you'd need to take out on the tablet if it does indeed have data network capabilities?
I think they know they need to get this into as many hands as possible, they know the content (ahem...app store) is VERY lucrative. so selling it at a less profit is VERY beneficial. So I think it will be priced to its value. Im thinking $699 and $799 I wonder if theirs a apps anonymous
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Catrik007
Well when you hear constant rumors, by otherwise educated analysts & reporters, spouting off $1000 (like in today's WSJ article) you wonder. Also Apple does have a tendency to put miss the pricing mark on some of it's products - look at how it overpriced the original iPhone and then had to backtrack a couple months later. Question is, did they learn from that. We'll see on Wed.
What makes you think the tablet would not have a "FULL" operating system (whatever you mean by that). If an external mouse/keyboard is supported and you can plug it into an external monitor, then you get a fully usable desktop computer. Useful for doing real work at your desk. Dual Core ARM connected to a power supply is bloody fast.
Agree, but I think it will needs to be even lower more in the 400-500 to be successful...
Fair enough, Im thinking the $1,000 was to get us accustomed to a higher price then we will be more happy at seeing it at $799. Since we were thinking it was gonna be no more than $500, I think its gonna be priced at $799
Catrik007
Nothing freaky about. It's called fear of loosing your job, and Big Brother knows where you are.
At $1000 you're really at that point where you could improve your quality of life more by spending that cash in other ways.
I'm a medical student and apple fanboy. Medical + student + fanboy = the three main audiences for this device. If they can't flog it to me then they won't be selling many to anyone, honestly. $1000 is just too much, especially considering I'll be paying in pound sterling...
$700-800 is the max I can see working really. Even at $800 you're gonna see a small drop in stock prices, but $1000 is really gonna generate a lot of negative perception and the stock ticker will just tank, and everyone knows that.
I'm a medical student and apple fanboy. Medical + student + fanboy = the three main audiences for this device. If they can't flog it to me then they won't be selling many to anyone, honestly. $1000 is just too much, especially considering I'll be paying in pound sterling...
$700-800 is the max I can see working really. Even at $800 you're gonna see a small drop in stock prices, but $1000 is really gonna generate a lot of negative perception and the stock ticker will just tank, and everyone knows that.
Basic white Macbooks are $999 (minus tax) in the US and over £800 in the UK.
I'm hoping this tablet will be lower in price than the Macbook!
Just needs the cellproviders to cooperate. Not like T-Mobile won't charge you extra for tethering now, at least here in Germany.
Who'd want to pay extra just so they can get their 'Apple Kindle' to download a new book, when the actual Kindle does it for free?
I've confirmed this with two persons "very familiar with the project" who requested that their names not be used. The new screen will be made of transparent aluminum--a material that many posters here should be all too familiar with. But don't tell anyone.
missing the concept of niche products...
Since you are so confident the Air was a flop, I am predicting you might declare the slate/tablet a failure as well. Why wait? Declare it a dud now and save the time.
You might enjoy another piece that declares the product a failure prematurely:
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/187223/apple_tablet_wont_mean_business.html
By the way, I bought a first gen Air. I researched the options carefully and was weighing between a Pro and the Air (not a MacBook). I knew the tradeoffs and advantages, and size/weight was well worth it (for me). I don't sit in Starbucks pretending to work (so cool factor meant nothing). It is about the size of a pad of paper, and fits in my (very small) briefcase. It also runs my Optima projector with no issues. I consider it one of the best macs I have had (and I have had a LOT). I would buy it again.
So... there is nothing wrong with a company launching a product that is not targeted at "you". Success/failure does not depend on making something that appeals or works for everyone. Personally, I am going to wait and see... and probably be surprised by some aspect of what they are launching. Even if it is a 1.0 release. I am old enough to remember the Apple Quicktake 100... I remember seeing that release and knowing it was significant. Not for what is WAS, but for what it would be (even if Apple didn't make it). That idea/product revolutionized an industry, just as I expect this device to do... in the future.
My children just walked out the door, on their way to school. My eldest, looked like a giant turtle, laden with a 50lb backpack filled with her schoolbooks. Imagine a world where they only carry 1 small device the size of a book instead. I can...
cheers,
michael
Since you are so confident the Air was a flop, I am predicting you might declare the slate/tablet a failure as well. Why wait? Declare it a dud now and save the time.
You might enjoy another piece that declares the product a failure prematurely:
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/187223/apple_tablet_wont_mean_business.html
By the way, I bought a first gen Air. I researched the options carefully and was weighing between a Pro and the Air (not a MacBook). I knew the tradeoffs and advantages, and size/weight was well worth it (for me). I don't sit in Starbucks pretending to work (so cool factor meant nothing). It is about the size of a pad of paper, and fits in my (very small) briefcase. It also runs my Optima projector with no issues. I consider it one of the best macs I have had (and I have had a LOT). I would buy it again.
So... there is nothing wrong with a company launching a product that is not targeted at "you". Success/failure does not depend on making something that appeals or works for everyone. Personally, I am going to wait and see... and probably be surprised by some aspect of what they are launching. Even if it is a 1.0 release. I am old enough to remember the Apple Quicktake 100... I remember seeing that release and knowing it was significant. Not for what is WAS, but for what it would be (even if Apple didn't make it). That idea/product revolutionized an industry, just as I expect this device to do... in the future.
My children just walked out the door, on their way to school. My eldest, looked like a giant turtle, laden with a 50lb backpack filled with her schoolbooks. Imagine a world where they only carry 1 small device the size of a book instead. I can...
cheers,
michael
Not most college students ... but what about a lot of freshmen?
Target the core courses first -- there's a heck of a lot of folks taking Calc 1, US History, etc, etc, each fall. As you move forward, now you start targeting the more "esoteric" courses -- that is, the upper-level courses. Engineering would be an especially nice niche, as books go for a premium, so the incentive would be greater (and the profits for the book companies, considering "no DRM = no used book sales" dynamic, would be greater, too!).
No one would want to pay extra for tethering to download a book since wifi probably available for that purpose. However, tethering would be useful in same way that 3G on a Touch would be useful at times.
Yes, but if anything goes wrong with it you have to go back in time so a humpback whale could reboot it for you.
going back in time so a humpback whale could reboot it for you = fail
No... at $1000, you're at the point where your quality of life is improved by not buying. Don't make the mistake of thinking that you're the target market, or that your experience == entire consumer space market experience.
I've been making the case here for a $1000 price point being well within the undergrad student market's sweet spot, considering the costs of the alternative case. The market, which also consists of the other players in this scenario (book publishers, et al), will do the math, and Apple's stock price won't tank, even if the price point goes north of $1000 ...
Face it mate, medical field + uni student + apple fanboy has gotta be a sure sell at the very least.
Also, stocks usually fall after any Apple announcement. They fell after the iPhone, the iPod Touch, almost everything. The reason is price, whether rightly or wrongly the stock market responds first and foremost to the price which they almost always perceive as too high.
An $800 price point would see a traditional Apple dip, but $1000 is really reaching up there into the realms of madness. Stocks would tank, no doubt about it.
$1000 is lightyears outside of the "typical uni student price range", get real. $800 would require them to really stretch, an extra $200 makes this a very niche product.